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Old 10-09-2010, 02:43 PM
 
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The reason given for the objection appears very well considered:

"Senator Enzi objects to the continuation of this fund because it undermines key principles of welfare reform by rewarding states that increase welfare spending and when created, the fund was meant to be temporary. The Emergency Contingency Fund is not sound welfare policy, has not been considered by the Senate Finance Committee, is not bipartisan, and is costly, estimated to cost approximately $500 million for a one quarter extension, that is why Senator Enzi objected to its extension."

GOP Blocks Reauthorization Of 'Important Social Safety Net Program'

Are you able to counter those conditions highlighted in red with some facts instead of hateful name calling? Go ahead, give it a try!
I repeat, in these economic times, Tea Party policies are UNCONSCIONABLE. $500 million is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Tea Party goes after the poorest of the poor instead of going after the richest of the rich. The highest priority of Tea Party is extending BUSH TAX CUTS for the wealthiest in the country, that is most of what we have heard for months from Tea Party. If this is not greedy, then what is?
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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While I realise that this is the POLITICS and Other Controversies forum, why is it that EVERY &^%$ thread ends up in a political mudflinging fest?

Can't we have ANY threads where we address the topic of the thread and leave POLITICS out of it? Especially as it always seems to end up with posters throwing slurs and denigrations at each other SOLELY due to their "perceived" political affiliations.

It's gotten old and we've pretty much SEEN all the comments before and I'm sure the mods would like a breather now and then.
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:47 PM
 
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I repeat, in these economic times, Tea Party policies are UNCONSCIONABLE. $500 million is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Tea Party goes after the poorest of the poor instead of going after the richest of the rich. The highest priority of Tea Party is extending BUSH TAX CUTS for the wealthiest in the country, that is most of what we have heard for months from Tea Party. If this is not greedy, then what is?
So you are not willing to counter with actual facts about the program in question, is that correct?
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:50 PM
 
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So you are not willing to counter with actual facts about the program in question, is that correct?
I countered with facts already. It is your turn to rationalize Tea Party's priorities of program vs Bush tax cuts.
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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The reason given for the objection appears very well considered:

"Senator Enzi objects to the continuation of this fund because it undermines key principles of welfare reform by rewarding states that increase welfare spending and when created, the fund was meant to be temporary. The Emergency Contingency Fund is not sound welfare policy, has not been considered by the Senate Finance Committee, is not bipartisan, and is costly, estimated to cost approximately $500 million for a one quarter extension, that is why Senator Enzi objected to its extension."

GOP Blocks Reauthorization Of 'Important Social Safety Net Program'

Are you able to counter those conditions highlighted in red with some facts instead of hateful name calling? Go ahead, give it a try!
That was what I took from the article as well - that basically they objected to states who increased welfare spending being rewarded with MORE funds.

Part of the state's responsibility for those funds is to be able to quantify how many TANF (welfare) recipients they have managed to transition to work using those ECF funds. If the states can't come up with those figures then why should they be rewarded with more funds?
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Old 10-09-2010, 02:59 PM
 
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That was what I took from the article as well - that basically they objected to states who increased welfare spending being rewarded with MORE funds.

Part of the state's responsibility for those funds is to be able to quantify how many TANF (welfare) recipients they have managed to transition to work using those ECF funds. If the states can't come up with those figures then why should they be rewarded with more funds?
This is classic "pennywise and pound foolish". In other words, Republican Party is cautious with small amounts of money, but careless with larger amounts.
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Old 10-09-2010, 03:02 PM
 
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I countered with facts already. It is your turn to rationalize Tea Party's priorities of program vs Bush tax cuts.
Where? Where do you link any facts about the program? You stated that $500 million isn't anything, is that what you call a fact of this program?
Really? Have you even done any research into this "blocked" program? If so, please present your factual argument against it's blockage and why it is prudent to extend it again when it has never been reviewed by the Senate Financial Committee and when it rewards states who increase their welfare spending, rather than slinging hyperbole.

As to the Tea Party, who doesn't have anyone responsible for blocking this program being discussed specifically, and any members of the (D) and (R) parties condemnation of an Obama tax increase, well that is not the subject of this thread is it? That would be thread hijacking.
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Old 10-09-2010, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Spokane via Sydney,Australia
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This is classic "pennywise and pound foolish". In other words, Republican Party is cautious with small amounts of money, but careless with larger amounts.
So you STILL fail to come up with any meaningful dialogue regarding the content of the article ?
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Old 10-09-2010, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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The only government regs I'm aware of is E-Verify when hiring people. I'm sure the right wing doesn't want to do away with this. Just take a glance at the immigration forum on CD.
If that is the only regulation you think employer must follow when hiring someone then you aren't very aware.

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Old 10-09-2010, 03:04 PM
 
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Where? Where do you link any facts about the program? You stated that $500 million isn't anything, is that what you call a fact of this program?
Really? Have you even done any research into this "blocked" program? If so, please present your factual argument against it's blockage and why it is prudent to extend it again when it has never been reviewed by the Senate Financial Committee and when it rewards states who increase their welfare spending, rather than slinging hyperbole.

As to the Tea Party, who doesn't have anyone responsible for blocking this program being discussed specifically, and any members of the (D) and (R) parties condemnation of an Obama tax increase, well that is not the subject of this thread is it? That would be thread hijacking.
At the risk of repeating myself:
This is classic "pennywise and pound foolish". In other words, Republican Party is cautious with small amounts of money, but careless with larger amounts.
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