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Blah..blah..blah...blah...blah. Never have I heard such amateur authoritarianism from a group of arm chair political analysts. The left wing political intelligentia speaks. Now ain't that a contradition of terms?
So many authoritarian remarks written from our own playbooks, concocted from your own imaginations,-I just don't have the time to answer them all. Lemmings on a mission to socialize America. You folks I've noticed love to speak of some elusive, imaginary loosely tied group you call neocons. Well your group is a very tight lemming like lock step group I would refer to as neoCOMS. You have it down pat, patented,pattutied, I might add.
VA you probably have the most understandable post only with a might blanket summary of conservative versus liberal. The problem with you "Historians" is that even though history may be important in some contexts it does not account for social evolution ,the predominent ideas of contemporary society which is where we are at and all that matters.
For instance, most of you want to take one little span of time and attribute the beliefs of the entire conservative ideology as subscribing to that agenda.
Whereas most of us don't like the war, we do understand that just like Vietnam, we not only have to fight a formidable enemy,( that by the way wants to see you liberals dead as much as us conservatives), but we also have to carry the squalling librocrats on our backs. That is a tough assignment I don't care how tough you are because there are a lot of little birds out their all nested up with their mouths wide open that we conservatives also have to feed.
I don't know how long you boys and girls have been around but I go back a ways and I'm not seeing the same read as yu are on a lot of things which leads me to believe you have watched a lot of CBS in yur days and read a lot of Newsweek Mags etc. You nedd to get out more.
In conclusion, let me straighten you out on one final matter. The essence of conservatism versus liberal, (choke...choke...Progressives) is as follows. Conservatives believe in the rights of the individual. They believe in the strength of the individual. If you begin with the strenghtening of the individual, you me, them, to read, write, cipher,be healthy,develop morally,love your neighbor,(all that Biblical Christian stuff most of you hate), and if each and every one of us develop as strong individuals we will be strong as a society,
Now Hillary has told you what you should be,(It takes a village and other manifestos of the left), so you go on and be what Hillary wants you to be socially, morally,aesthetically,politically.
You are probably going to get another shot at it soon. Just remember, in spite of your errant beliefs in willy nilly abortion, social engineering, dominence by the institutional liberal intelligentia, redistribution of wealth, human genome engineering from embryos, race baiting with unequal rights, all that good progressive stuff you are so proud of, remember, you can overload a good mule and we can't pack your asses to eternity.
In conclusion, let me straighten you out on one final matter. The essence of conservatism versus liberal, (choke...choke...Progressives) is as follows. Conservatives believe in the rights of the individual. They believe in the strength of the individual. If you begin with the strenghtening of the individual, you me, them, to read, write, cipher,be healthy,develop morally,love your neighbor,(all that Biblical Christian stuff most of you hate), and if each and every one of us develop as strong individuals we will be strong as a society,
Now Hillary has told you what you should be,(It takes a village and other manifestos of the left), so you go on and be what Hillary wants you to be socially, morally,aesthetically,politically.
You are probably going to get another shot at it soon. Just remember, in spite of your errant beliefs in willy nilly abortion, social engineering, dominence by the institutional liberal intelligentia, redistribution of wealth, human genome engineering from embryos, race baiting with unequal rights, all that good progressive stuff you are so proud of, remember, you can overload a good mule and we can't pack your asses to eternity.
You nailed it KAINTUCK, I think the (forum world polisci proffessor wantabe's), besides liking to hear themselves lecture, like to play the word games,instead of acknowleging the reality of TODAY.
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,(all that Biblical Christian stuff most of you hate .
Hate is much to strong a word and doesn't apply here, it's just that people who understand how America came to be KNOW that any of that religious stuff doesn't belong in the government of the US despite what the fundie zealots may say.
I've asked in several threads just WHERE in US law the God in "In God We Trust" is identified as ONE specific God as opposed to any of the more than 5,000 named gods in recorded history. NOBODY has cited a specific law because THERE ISN'T ONE.
The reality of today is that the so-called blue states are carrying the financial burden of the so-called red states, and it's been that way for quite some time. If you want to get personal about it, and you apparently do, I'm in my 60's, I'd be more likely to pick up C-SPAN and The Economist, and my taxes are significantly larger than the median household income in this country. That's just the federal and it includes all those Bushie tax cuts that I got but you didn't. So, how 'bout you, Mr. Mule? How long have you been paying the AMT???
Your mistake, and it's a big one, is in assuming that you have any monopoly at all over belief in the rights of the individual. Liberals share that with you in spades, but they go you one better in recognizing at the same time the responsibilities of the individual. These, you just plain aren't too big on. You want reading, writing, and cipehering, but you undercut education. You want all this health, but you undercut health care. You want moral development, but insist that it be your morals that are adhered to. You want love of neighbor, and yet despise more groups than a gay Hispanic atheist woman could shake a stick at. In short you want it all except your share of the tab at the end of the evening, and you expect everyone else at the table to order exactly the same thing that you do, or you're going to just up and walk out on them. And don't even start with this war crap. It isn't our fault that you all bought into a pack of lies that you had been told was a pack of lies to start out with. The only burden you have had to put up with on that front is having been told that you were wrong all along when you were wrong all along. And you can't even tolerate that? Some mule!
But go ahead. Prove me wrong. Set out some problem, then set out some of the alternatives you'd see as reasonable approaches to dealing with that problem. What have you got? Nuke Iran? Deport 12 million immigrants? Privatize Social Security? Pull out of the UN? Don't make me laugh. You see, in some circles, you've got to put some actual cards on the table before you go calling blah, blah, blah on any of the cards that are already out there. Got the stuff for that, you and the rally-monkeys? Then go for it. I'm all ears...
Your mistake, and it's a big one, is in assuming that you have any monopoly at all over belief in the rights of the individual. Liberals share that with you in spades, but they go you one better in recognizing at the same time the responsibilities of the individual. These, you just plain aren't too big on. You want reading, writing, and cipehering, but you undercut education. You want all this health, but you undercut health care. You want moral development, but insist that it be your morals that are adhered to. You want love of neighbor, and yet despise more groups than a gay Hispanic atheist woman could shake a stick at. In short you want it all except your share of the tab at the end of the evening, and you expect everyone else at the table to order exactly the same thing that you do, or you're going to just up and walk out on them. And don't even start with this war crap. It isn't our fault that you all bought into a pack of lies that you had been told was a pack of lies to start out with. The only burden you have had to put up with on that front is having been told that you were wrong all along when you were wrong all along. And you can't even tolerate that? Some mule!
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Why is it you and your intellectual socialist breatheren keep breezing over the fact that conservatives very much believe in the responsibilities of the individual they just dont believe in relinquishing themselves of that responsibiliy to the federal government in the ultimate act of cowardly slothfulness. Liberals, say please take my wages and in return I will accept the meager, lowly existense you will provide in return. Conservatives, say take an equal amount from everyone that is required to perform the basic services and provide for the defense of the nation, then get out of our lives and out of our way and let us succeed or fail on our own. Surely Saggy someone who fancys himself to be as brilliant as your namesake, would not deny that the government is not the most efficient or effective vehicle for one to exercise his individual responsibilitys!
You state yourself pretty well Sandanista, well enough to see you mirror my previos post. As for you...Burdell...I don't see any Mooslum quotes from the Quaran on any monuments in Washington. Well just yet anyway. I don't remember any Mooslum founding fathers. Some things you just let your common sense base upon, totally obvious observations ,that this is a country founded of a Christian heritage. What really puzzles me is that for those folks who seem to despise Christianity, where it is they find such horrrendous fault in the teachings of Jesus Christ. How can spoken words of Jesus Christ, which are so politically benign, be such a thorn in the side of those who don't subscribe to Christianity? This country has been around for over two hundred years, not a very long time in the scope of things, and it has managed to survive the concerns of the liberals all those years. Hasn't been many years since these weren't concerns at all. You children need to understand that Jesus Christ is not going to take away your neo Communist manifestos. He is not interested in that. Read it sometime, he is really not the boogey-man. It is spiritual stuff, has nothing to do with government. It is so funny, the ACLU supports the blaring of Muslum prayer over a neighborhood loud speaker but objects to quiet Christian prayer in a room full of people that subscribe to prayer less one plaintiff.
You people pseudointellectualize everything until all your thoughts are little more than soup. One big slurp by any reader and the reader understands it all, and it tastes pretty foul by the way. Lay your guru manifestos down, pull you head out of your(okay we'll say personal egos), and just be proud to be an American. I promise you it is going to be a while yet before the revolution comes and should the revolution come your going to lose anyways.
Mister Sandanista, I told you in straight forward and simple terms the true definition of a conservative versus a liberal. It is not possible to be any plainer, straightforward or more truthful. It is a very distinct difference. It is not complicated. The individual versus the mob.
Undercut education!Hahahahahahahah! Reread what I told you about education. "That is all ye know and all ye ever need to know." I didn't grow up with a silver spoon , as you imply you might have. What I did do is serve my country and a greatful country paid for an education that I might not otherwise have been able to obtain. Bottom line pal, is if you can't make it in this country it is your own damn fault. You can support all them little nested birdies with their mouths wide open till hell freezes over and the only thing you are going to prove is how compassionate you are to yourself. I don't despise any group but in my day I just might have shook my stick at that gay Hispanic woman and it might have done her some good. We'll talk about the war another time if that is what you are illudeing to ,I would be interested in your crawl up under the bed ideas on that one too.
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You state yourself pretty well Sandanista, well enough to see you mirror my previos post. As for you...Burdell...I don't see any Mooslum quotes from the Quaran on any monuments in Washington. Well just yet anyway. I don't remember any Mooslum founding fathers. Some things you just let your common sense base upon, totally obvious observations ,that this is a country founded of a Christian heritage. .
Your disrespectful spelling of Muslim explains more about your self-righteous mentality than a few thousand more words ever could.
You say "I don't remember any Mooslum(sic) founding fathers", I would add that you obviously don't have a clue about what the founding fathers had in mind for this country either.
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Your disrespectful spelling of Muslim explains more about your self-righteous mentality than a few thousand more words ever could.
You say "I don't remember any Mooslum(sic) founding fathers", I would add that you obviously don't have a clue about what the founding fathers had in mind for this country either.
I wouldn't be worried about the spelling of Mooslum. There is no Muslim that will respect you. According to the Koran you are an infidel and the only thing you and I are worthy of is death.
I wouldn't be worried about the spelling of Mooslum. There is no Muslim that will respect you. According to the Koran you are an infidel and the only thing you and I are worthy of is death.
Good point citigirl. And KAINTUCK is correct about the founding fathers.
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