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Originally Posted by silas777
Its real simple , if their is a conflict somewhere in the world Carter will come down on the side that hates the America. I consider that Anti American
Like it or not HAMAS was democratically elected, is there any credible evidence it was not a real election process?
If not are we only to believe in the democratic process when the results suit our agenda?
Posted by silas777
"Its real simple , if their is a conflict somewhere in the world Carter will come down on the side that hates the America. I consider that Anti American"
Not to worry. Eventually they will become our trading partners.
Now Carter is responsible for the evil scourge of homosexuality.....
Just lemme find out he was the one who let minorities filthy 'mericas
favorite pasttime......
Nice stretch of what I said btw.... My only point in bringing up homosexuality is that it CERTAINLY has nothing to do with Conservative social values. No need to argue that point as all the jabs by the liberals here underscore the fact that they get that point.... I was only using it as one of a MULTITUDE of examples of how our society has gotten WAY more liberal over the last 20 years despite skytrekker's claim that conservatives have had "political control for the last 30 years", but he has now pared down that statement to "economic control", which I concede is closer to the truth, though still not 100% accurrate.
It is not important who 'is in control' the political pendulum of the nation has been right of center for over 30 years.
Better analogy might be that the pendulum has been a little right of center for the last 30 years, but the entire clock has been moving left in the meantime.
Better analogy might be that the pendulum has been a little right of center for the last 30 years, but the entire clock has been moving left in the meantime.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. We have become progressively authoritarian since the Civil War. Each war that we wage pushes us ever so slightly to a more authoritarian state. We are in a state of corporate socialism. We will eventually be a fascist state if people don't wake up and realize it's not about liberals or conservatives, republicans or democrats. The political game between republicans and democrats is just for show.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. We have become progressively authoritarian since the Civil War. Each war that we wage pushes us ever so slightly to a more authoritarian state. We are in a state of corporate socialism. We will eventually be a fascist state if people don't wake up and realize it's not about liberals or conservatives, republicans or democrats. The political game between republicans and democrats is just for show.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. We have become progressively authoritarian since the Civil War. Each war that we wage pushes us ever so slightly to a more authoritarian state. We are in a state of corporate socialism. We will eventually be a fascist state if people don't wake up and realize it's not about liberals or conservatives, republicans or democrats. The political game between republicans and democrats is just for show.
Socially we've become more and more lax as the years have continued on. Again I'll state that yes, economically we have been pretty conservative but socially I'd like to hear any explaination as to how society has gotten more authoritarian, except for the fact that technology has allowed more intrusion in our lives.
THIS administration has been authoritarian, but that has not been our trend.
But are you going to DARE claim that attitudes toward homosexuality have not softened GREATLY over the last 20 years???
In many aspects economic philosophy has been very conservative as far as lower taxes, and also crap like defecit spending and "trickle down economics" (which it is now clear doesn't work, not that I ever thought it would).
Well let's not throw around some of these big words until we examine them a bit closer. We are nowhere CLOSE to a "laissez faire" mindset, but that may be as much the fault of conservatism as anything with government bailouts and subsidies and such which goes against the very ESSENCE of Laissez Faire. I agree that our government looks out too much for large corporations and not enough for the little guy due to the stupid theory that these large corporations are going to pass thier good fortunes on to the consumer or the worker.... HA!!!
Perhaps.
Again, I'm not going to get into a pissing match over these things, but you need to be WAY more specific in your posts. YOU stated that economics and THEN SOME were ALL very conservative leaning over the last 30 or so years and I called you on it.
You wish to limit your statement to economics ONLY now and I might be inclined to agree.
No, I chose to include it AMONG OTHER THINGS in politics. YOU were too general, not me.
Well again, you have said basically nothing.
Clinton raised taxes and we had a surplus- Bush lowered taxes and we are in the red-alot.
Again- what are you trying to say? The US economy is sitting precariously on the head of a pin- this was not the case in 2000- was it?
The far right as you- have been very clever of twisting just about everything-from social culture to economics to suit and define your narrow and intolerant goals- sorry the game is just about over. Cheers.
Socially we've become more and more lax as the years have continued on. Again I'll state that yes, economically we have been pretty conservative but socially I'd like to hear any explaination as to how society has gotten more authoritarian, except for the fact that technology has allowed more intrusion in our lives.
THIS administration has been authoritarian, but that has not been our trend.
Social Security? Federal Income Tax? Prohibition (recreational drugs are still prohibited)? These are powers usurped by the federal government which the Constitution did not grant. Maybe you'd prefer I talk about property rights? Does Kelo vs New London ring a bell? That's just off the top of my head. I could google more without much effort.
You don't even realize how much your liberties have been compromised, which is pretty sad.
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