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That's my point--I wouldn't care to hazard a guess based on probability as to how long you will live.
So your point is that there is the occasional anomaly? I don't think anyone will disagree with you on that, but it has little bearing on the discussion. If we're trying to evaluate your claim that " noone pays in as much as they take out" we use averages over large sample sizes. Pointing out the existence of outlying data point isn't relevant.
It's like if someone said that statistically people die within 22 months of a diagnosis of pancreatic cancer, you'd be shouting that Joe Blow from Houston lived 7 years therefore it's not true.
That's my point--I wouldn't care to hazard a guess based on probability as to how long you will live.
There have been people who have lived with debilitating diseases far longer than any doctor would have expected them to. There are even people who have recovered from something their doctors said they wouldn't. People don't obey "probability".
And there are people who pay into SS for 30+ years, and then die before they can begin drawing any benefits. Again... nothing more than anecdotal evidence.
The point is, your limited anecdotal experience is far less accurate than the carefully calculated actuarial tables.
We are talking about those who allow others to be parasites. Maybe you are not, but are you ok with others being parasites??
"A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members"
You can act tough and big and say "pull yourself by your own bootstraps blah blah blah" but fact is, life is not so simple.
And before you say I'm a parasite, my wife and I both have our own businesses and we make pretty decent money. We also employ more than a dozen people. I could live pretty well working just 6 months a year and my wife would not have to work if she wanted to.
Ironic how labels like "parasites" often (not always) come from blue collar people with little education and crappy salaries. "I make 30k a year, I work hard! I pay taxes! Bow to me, mr. government!"
So your point is that there is the occasional anomaly? I don't think anyone will disagree with you on that, but it has little bearing on the discussion. If we're trying to evaluate your claim that " noone pays in as much as they take out" we use averages over large sample sizes. Pointing out the existence of outlying data point isn't relevant.
It's like if someone said that statistically people die within 22 months of a diagnosis of pancreatic cancer, you'd be shouting that Joe Blow from Houston lived 7 years therefore it's not true.
And I'm not referring to one or two. The elderly population of Florida is quite large.
And I'm not referring to one or two. The elderly population of Florida is quite large.
I'm honestly not sure if you are purposely playing dumb to obfuscate a weak position in this discussion or not. I might as well debate this with my cat.
"A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members"
I can't say I enjoyed your post but I can't say it offended me either.
I do have a question, who is judging this society? Also, why don't we ever question the weakest members?
It's quite obvious that this society, that is being judged, is breeding weak members. That makes a weak society.
I'm honestly not sure if you are purposely playing dumb to obfuscate a weak position in this discussion or not. I might as well debate this with my cat.
Depends--is it an "average" cat?
Let me know when you meet that family with the 2.3 kids. Always wanted to see what a .3 kid looked like.
Spare me the lectures on mean vs. median, I majored in applied mathematics in college. What's your degree in?
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