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Old 03-12-2012, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Plus it offers a reverse rush-hour commute. Atlanta has been putting up a lot of skyscrapers away from downtown to the point that we are developing edge cities.
DC has "edge cities" such as Tysons Corner and Reston, VA, both of which are very congested. Ditto Bethesda, MD. I don't necessarily think "edge cities" are a great idea.
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:58 PM
 
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DC has "edge cities" such as Tysons Corner and Reston, VA, both of which are very congested. Ditto Bethesda, MD. I don't necessarily think "edge cities" are a great idea.
What can you do? Everything can't be downtown. And if you try, prices soar and you're back to the edge city. I think Pittsburgh can absorb a lot of growth but a price squeeze would send new development to Monroeville and Cranberry.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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There are still plenty of gaps near downtown that can be filled with development. Strip District, North Shore, Lower hill, Uptown, portions of the South side riverfront (near the terminal buildings, further down by station square), etc.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:51 PM
 
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I prefer that all the skyscrapers stay in the triangle but maybe it could move into the strip.

In the meantime, build a new Allegheny County Jail in some out-of-the-way place in the county and either convert the jail to condos/apartments or build a new skyscraper there. That real estate is too valuable to waste on a jail.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:56 PM
 
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The County jail is only 20 years old. They aren't going to build a new one anytime soon.

Once again I say that Allegheny Ctr should go and well planned urban center with at least one anchor like tower.

Additionally, Oakland has low vacancy rates and vastly under utlilized.

A smart plan would do well for that area.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:09 PM
 
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The County jail is only 20 years old. They aren't going to build a new one anytime soon.

Once again I say that Allegheny Ctr should go and well planned urban center with at least one anchor like tower.

Additionally, Oakland has low vacancy rates and vastly under utlilized.

A smart plan would do well for that area.
20 years? Too old. Need a new one. Besides, the present location should fetch a good price to pay to build a jail on cheap land.
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Old 03-12-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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20 years? Too old. Need a new one. Besides, the present location should fetch a good price to pay to build a jail on cheap land.
I don't like it there, but that ain't changing any time soon.

I also don't know what building (commercial office) would want that spot.

Other than from a distance where it looks like a nice spot, it's pretty isolated.
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Old 03-12-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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There is plenty of development space in the Greater Downtown area (including the near Strip, Lower Hill, North Shore, and South Shore), as well as some right in Downtown.

It makes sense to have the county jail near the county courthouse. And that location isn't as great as some people seem to think--yes it has a river view, but it is also surrounded by highway ramps:

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Old 03-12-2012, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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It won't be built by one of the gas companies; for the most part they aren't interested in downtown. Its more likely to be a bank or law firm that will be the initial tenant, but it will be owned by a third party developer.
Despite knowing next to nothing about energy companies, that sounds reasonable to me. Many of them don't seem to even be from the region. It would probably be another rapidly expanding yet well established & highly profitable local company (like PNC is), and who knows when that will happen - if it ever.

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If PNC isn't building skyscrapers, who will
No one. ...but I reserve the right to hedge 20% with increased likelihood as more time goes by. Because, each day is another day closer you know.
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Old 03-13-2012, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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If we could have as many skyscapers built in the 1980s, why not now if the recession ends. In the 1990s, you had...PPG Place...One Oxford Centre...One Mellon Bank Centre....CNG Tower...Fifth Avenue Place....Liberty Center..That six skyscrapers...plus Aetna built a twenty story building on Fort Pitt Blvd., Comstock built that building near CAPA on Fort Duquesne Blvd., Two Chatam Centre was another one seventeen stories tall. I can surely see at least one more high rise built by 2020 if can built ten highrises in the 1980s.
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