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Notice you call this a ''restaurant'' when in fact it's a bar that serves food. Alcohol and guns don't mix; never did and never will but it's interesting you went the ''restaurant'' route for some reason.
Cops' hands have been tied as they are very limited in their ability to stop, let alone arrest, anyone, whether unhinged or not, and it has nothing to do with ''running out of police''.
Then again, given that black folks generally and young black males in particular are indoctriinated into being victims of and living in an oppressive and racist system, perhaps this 21 y.o. black male shooter experienced some of this unfettered rage you mentioned as he encountered more racsim given that he couldn't shoot pool at a bar when it's a pool league night. The oppressive racism just never ends in his world. Drinking alcohol in a bar couldn't have anything to do with this.
Anyone in a bar etc when a violent drunk ''male'' is being physically removed from a bar best consider getting out of there quickly. This dude hung out in the parking lot; bar management had everyone move to the rear of the place as this guy stewed outside for up to an hour before spraying the windows with gunfire.
Lessone from last month's South Street Shootout: carefule who and where you choose to hang-out.
None of this is rocket science either.
Speaking of not being rocket science, again, can anyone define these Criminal Reform or Restorative Justice movements?
"Restorative justice" deals with property crime, not violent crimes against persons, and it's actually an attempt to "make the punishment fit the crime."
Instead of locking up the offender, restorative justice seeks to punish them by having them make the victim whole again, which is a possibility when the crime involves the theft of property or possessions. In practice, however, it could be combined with incarceration if the judge and prosecution consider it warranted, but there would need to be a way for the offender to earn the money needed to compensate the victim for the loss.
I appreciated his candidness and transparency last night. All he did was reiterate how most of us feel regarding the countries unhealthy obsession with firearms and legislation preventing anything from happening. Irony- the one time he’s right he catches hate
Yeah, 2nd Philly shooting/s triggering a mass panic stampede in a month doesn't help city's image. Big 4th of July concert-n-fireworks crowd on the Parkway set into mass panic flight.
I live right off the Parkway and knew to avoid that scene as evening approached.
Notice you call this a ''restaurant'' when in fact it's a bar that serves food. Alcohol and guns don't mix; never did and never will but it's interesting you went the ''restaurant'' route for some reason.
Cops' hands have been tied as they are very limited in their ability to stop, let alone arrest, anyone, whether unhinged or not, and it has nothing to do with ''running out of police''.
Then again, given that black folks generally and young black males in particular are indoctriinated into being victims of and living in an oppressive and racist system, perhaps this 21 y.o. black male shooter experienced some of this unfettered rage you mentioned as he encountered more racsim given that he couldn't shoot pool at a bar when it's a pool league night. The oppressive racism just never ends in his world. Drinking alcohol in a bar couldn't have anything to do with this.
Anyone in a bar etc when a violent drunk ''male'' is being physically removed from a bar best consider getting out of there quickly. This dude hung out in the parking lot; bar management had everyone move to the rear of the place as this guy stewed outside for up to an hour before spraying the windows with gunfire.
Lessone from last month's South Street Shootout: carefule who and where you choose to hang-out.
None of this is rocket science either.
Speaking of not being rocket science, again, can anyone define these Criminal Reform or Restorative Justice movements?
I don’t agree with everything here but I do agree that the lessons from this are to be careful right now where you hang out. It’s a shame but at this point I wouldn’t go to South Street at night or an event like the fireworks or Made in America over Labor Day. You’re asking for trouble. You still may be a victim of crime but at least you lessen the chances.
I hope things get back to how it was even five years ago when crime really did seem to be getting better.
I appreciated his candidness and transparency last night. All he did was reiterate how most of us feel regarding the countries unhealthy obsession with firearms and legislation preventing anything from happening. Irony- the one time he’s right he catches hate
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the people who shot the cops last night did not have a permit to carry a concealed weapon and did not purchase the weapons from a licensed firearms dealer. That would be true of the vast majority of gun violence that occurs in this city. Since these criminals don't follow the laws that already exist, it's doubtful that they would follow any new laws that would be created.
The problem in Philly isn't a lack of gun laws. It's the unwillingness of the current leadership to enforce the laws that exist already, and the inability to put criminals in jail where they belong.
Male shot in his car at 2nd/Market on mid-afternoon July 4, in critical condition.
Someone reaches down to pick up a cell phone, and you decide to shoot him because you feel threatened? And these were teenagers that shot him, according to the article. Interesting, because you need to be 21 in the state of PA to obtain a carry permit, and you need to have a carry permit in order to legally carry a concealed firearm. Clearly a crime was committed by these "innocent teenagers" who were I'm sure just harmlessly hanging around Penn's Landing in the middle of the night. Possession of a concealed weapon without a carry permit, and when you are not legally qualified to obtain a carry permit (in this case due to age), is a felony offense in the state of PA. So why have they not been arrested by Kenney/Outlaw/Krasner? And they wonder why crime has skyrocketed?
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the people who shot the cops last night did not have a permit to carry a concealed weapon and did not purchase the weapons from a licensed firearms dealer. That would be true of the vast majority of gun violence that occurs in this city. Since these criminals don't follow the laws that already exist, it's doubtful that they would follow any new laws that would be created.
The problem in Philly isn't a lack of gun laws. It's the unwillingness of the current leadership to enforce the laws that exist already, and the inability to put criminals in jail where they belong.
This is the nuance that continues to plague us because both political parties are talking past one another. Many people are for strict gun laws across the board for lawful citizens purchasing firearms legally. However, those laws do nothing to help the issue of constant daily shootings occurring by people who have illegal guns. The second scenario can only be dealt with by having an approach that aggressively identifies illegal weapons and severely punishing those who have them.
As a country, we need both of these things to happen. The Republicans need to support a reasonable level of laws for purchasing firearms legally. There needs to be a real vetting, but it also needs to be bureaucratically efficient.
The Democrats need to aggressively enforce the laws on the books. They need to have programs that gets the guns off the streets and they need to stop with the identity politics. If someone's driving a car that has a problem, the police should be able to pull them over. If somebody looks like they are going to cause trouble, the police should be able to stop and frisk to see if they have a weapon.
This is the nuance that continues to plague us because both political parties are talking past one another. Many people are for strict gun laws across the board for lawful citizens purchasing firearms legally. However, those laws do nothing to help the issue of constant daily shootings occurring by people who have illegal guns. The second scenario can only be dealt with by having an approach that aggressively identifies illegal weapons and severely punishing those who have them.
As a country, we need both of these things to happen. The Republicans need to support a reasonable level of laws for purchasing firearms legally. There needs to be a real vetting, but it also needs to be bureaucratically efficient.
The Democrats need to aggressively enforce the laws on the books. They need to have programs that gets the guns off the streets and they need to stop with the identity politics. If someone's driving a car that has a problem, the police should be able to pull them over. If somebody looks like they are going to cause trouble, the police should be able to stop and frisk to see if they have a weapon.
I agree 100%. There is a bi-partisan failure here. That's more than obvious. So the political pot-shots are completely useless and do literally nothing to solve the problem.
Enforcing the law shouldn't be a political issue; it's common sense and it's not mutually exclusive to fair criminal justice. On the other hand, those who constantly defend the current system of gun laws completely miss the point. There are certainly guns being obtained illegally, and it's on law enforcement to do a much better job with handling that problem.
But many guns used to commit crimes are obtained legally through unregulated purchases. For the 1 millionth time, loopholes DO exist. Here's one where gun purchases can still move forward after 3 days even if a background check is not completed: https://www.everytown.org/solutions/...ston-loophole/
We have to acknowledge that there are gaps and weaknesses here, and everyone is at fault. It's naive and ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
Someone reaches down to pick up a cell phone, and you decide to shoot him because you feel threatened? And these were teenagers that shot him, according to the article. Interesting, because you need to be 21 in the state of PA to obtain a carry permit, and you need to have a carry permit in order to legally carry a concealed firearm. Clearly a crime was committed by these "innocent teenagers" who were I'm sure just harmlessly hanging around Penn's Landing in the middle of the night. Possession of a concealed weapon without a carry permit, and when you are not legally qualified to obtain a carry permit (in this case due to age), is a felony offense in the state of PA. So why have they not been arrested by Kenney/Outlaw/Krasner? And they wonder why crime has skyrocketed?
There is no fully contextual honest dialogue occurring at this point in our country. There is a power struggle happening between the Republicans and Democrats, and the average citizen is ill-informed, responding in a vacuum, and not exhibiting good reasoning skills.
It is not hard to see that these teenagers are malicious and opportunistic. These people will be a burden to our society for the rest of their lives, and we have this type of element in spades. Yes, many don't have a father, and many are disadvantaged. But when did disadvantage become an excuse for violent and criminal behavior? And what can we do about children or teenagers who have no fathers when those individuals are already exhibiting criminal behavior?
The answer is... you cannot correct these individuals. Yes, there need to be solid gun laws. We need to find how people are buying weapons they should not have and plug the gap. The states that do not want to adjust to this are simply holding us back from achieving something that makes sense. On the other end though, swift and severe punishment needs to be issued for crimes related to gun violence. People need to see that it will not be tolerated. Fire a weapon illegally? Take a hand. Fire a weapon and injure somebody? Mandatory 20 years of hard labor in prison, and take a hand if they live to be a free person. Fire a gun and kill somebody illegally? Remove them from this earth expediently.
Anything in the middle will continue to prove completely ineffective. And the punishments might not be exactly right, but at this point, someone needs to step up and inform people what they are in for if they continue to be a problem on this society. They should start with the shooter from Highland park. Within 48 hours, State Justice should be wrapped up in the public square.
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