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Old 01-17-2020, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Says who? You don't know that.
Sorry. I should have said that I think he might be a good mayor.
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Old 01-17-2020, 11:49 AM
 
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More importantly, huh? People are struggling to put food on the table and we have asbestos raining on our kids but you want a litmus test for business owners before you will accept their tax payments to our beleaguered public schools and the City's under funded pension obligations?
Yes, because if they can't accept the reality of an existential crisis, I have no faith in their handling of any social ones.
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Old 01-17-2020, 12:16 PM
 
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unless you run a food truck
Seriously. "We need a business-friendly mayor like John Fry, the man who tried to get rid of an entire block of small businesses!"
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Old 01-17-2020, 12:16 PM
 
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Yes, because if they can't accept the reality of an existential crisis, I have no faith in their handling of any social ones.
Well they are indirectly handle social issues by paying people to work for them which allows said person to pay for food, housing, support of their dependents, and the pride and self esteem of earning a living. That's the point here. Be pragmatic about what your goal is for a specific transaction as opposed to allowing ideology to impact unrelated issues.

Do you do the same thing at work? Hey Bill, can you put together the sales forecast for next quarter but before I can trust you to do that, can you describe for me to what degree carbon emissions result in global warming?
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Old 01-17-2020, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Well they are indirectly handle social issues by paying people to work for them which allows said person to pay for food, housing, support of their dependents, and the pride and self esteem of earning a living. That's the point here. Be pragmatic about what your goal is for a specific transaction as opposed to allowing ideology to impact unrelated issues.

Do you do the same thing at work? Hey Bill, can you put together the sales forecast for next quarter but before I can trust you to do that, can you describe for me to what degree carbon emissions result in global warming?
I really appreciate your pragmatism. I also think there's something to the general concern that younger folk have about the world they'll inherit in 2035 and beyond (after some of the city council people are dead). Not sure that those of us who will be raising kids in a decade or two can afford to compartmentalize climate change, economic prosperity/growth, and social issues. Political/economic policies that revolve around specific, atomized, transactions can be dangerously shortsighted. Quite frankly, we no longer have time for that.

I'm all for balance; but for me, balance takes into account what jobs people have, not just that they have them. Some businesses would not provide enough compensation for the food, housing, and other essentials without regulations and standards. History tells us that. Balance should also take into account the amount of historical capital some communities/groups have hoarded at the expense of students who are in the underfunded, aespestos-laden schools you mention. If ethical capitalism is a thing, it certainly isn't a given.

Definitely interested in the 2023 mayoral race, especially in the context of this year's national elections. I smell change coming, one way or another.

Oh, and if those hypothetical sales forecasts for next quarter are in any way involved with the hypothetical company that could build a business on the very real oil refinery land in south philly, Bill better be able to answer to what degree carbon emissions result in global warming...

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Old 01-17-2020, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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To be clear, I'm not ageist. Nor am I wishing death on anyone. But I do think that generational change should be inevitable. Some folk have held onto power way too damned long.
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Old 01-17-2020, 03:19 PM
 
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Fry would make a great mayor.
I'm not so sure. He's been in academia since the 90s. If he was going in that direction he probably would have by now.

The guy, imo, who would have been a great mayor but didn't get the chance is Sam Katz
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Old 01-17-2020, 03:25 PM
 
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To be clear, I'm not ageist. Nor am I wishing death on anyone. But I do think that generational change should be inevitable. Some folk have held onto power way too damned long.
Should? It's inevitable as it should be. I'm the oldest person here and the change can't happen soon enough.
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Old 01-18-2020, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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The guy, imo, who would have been a great mayor but didn't get the chance is Sam Katz
Seconded. And he came thisclose to being mayor until they found that bug in Mayor Street's office. That allowed him to wrap himself in the "they've-got-it-in-for-us-black-folk" flag and rally his base around him.

Did you ever see the Tigre Hill documentary "The Shame of a City"?
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Old 01-20-2020, 08:30 AM
 
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Seconded. And he came thisclose to being mayor until they found that bug in Mayor Street's office. That allowed him to wrap himself in the "they've-got-it-in-for-us-black-folk" flag and rally his base around him.

Did you ever see the Tigre Hill documentary "The Shame of a City"?
Actually, no, I have not.
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