Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Parenting
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-22-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
49,926 posts, read 60,332,754 times
Reputation: 98359

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Book Lover 21 View Post
You might be onto something here. When we left the Civil Rights Museum, he said he felt ashamed to be white.
Yeah, that's not the desired goal of a trip to the Civil Rights Museum.

Y'all need to find a family therapist, not as much for the texts as for his self-image issues, the friendship challenges and the family dynamic as a whole.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-22-2015, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Aiken, South Carolina, US of A
1,794 posts, read 4,954,397 times
Reputation: 3674
Book Lover,
Take the phone away and don't give it back.
He has no good reason to have a phone at 14 anyway. Seriously.
You really have to keep him very busy at his age.
14 is tough. Really tough.
I used to say put your kids in day care when they are little and hire a
babysitter for them when they are teens.
Try to find him a paying job some where. That's what I did.
I volunteered my teens for everything, from cutting grass, cleaning cars, anything.
Besides school work, he should be working his butt off.
And the most important thing is this- SAY WHAT YOU MEAN, and MEAN WHAT YOU SAY.
If you put conditions on something, follow through with it.
You can't be mad at a teen for not following through when his parents don't follow through
whit anything. It's says you really do't care that much.
Good Luck to you.
I sure don't envy those tough teen years, I was exhausted.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-22-2015, 12:57 PM
 
6,319 posts, read 7,279,220 times
Reputation: 11988
Kids at that age have ONE preoccupation >>>being accepted by peers.

I would say your son is trying desperately to "fit in" with a group of little potential criminals.

This is a worry, for sure.

Not so much the N=words and all, but his desire to fit in with such filth. What sort of school is he at?

On the other hand - if you'd never abused his privacy in that way, you would never have known so - be careful what you snoop for.

I actually think YOU are more in the wrong than your son. You've just taught him he has no right to privacy nor his own thoughts on various matters.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-22-2015, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Under the Milky Way
1,299 posts, read 1,193,875 times
Reputation: 5296
If you want him to still have a phone, perhaps take away his smart phone and get him a crappy flip phone. It seems like a good punishment for abusing his smart phone, imo. I guarantee if you do that it will make a big impression on him.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-22-2015, 02:41 PM
 
10,988 posts, read 5,829,407 times
Reputation: 11167
It certainly isn't the main issue, but "I don't know" is an unacceptable answer from a 14 year old, in the context of the questions that you would be asking.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-22-2015, 03:20 PM
 
Location: detroit mi
676 posts, read 731,488 times
Reputation: 1622
no matter what punishment you lay down he is going to do and think what he feels is right. there is nothing you can do to change how he perceives life. If he changes he will only do it for himself. You can tell him your thoughts on the subject but thats about as much persuasion as you can offer. ultimately hes going to do what he wants to do and there isn't much that can be done about that short of brainwashing him
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-22-2015, 03:57 PM
 
2,007 posts, read 2,921,962 times
Reputation: 3129
I just don't get how some responders think this is ok, normal, do it all the time, etc. It's not normal or acceptable to make racist jokes and rape jokes. the more you make light of it the worse it will be
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-22-2015, 04:04 PM
 
11,556 posts, read 12,114,684 times
Reputation: 17758
Who's in charge? If the teen refuses to cease his inappropriate communications, take the phone away from him.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-22-2015, 04:36 PM
jw2
 
2,028 posts, read 3,279,622 times
Reputation: 3387
Quote:
Originally Posted by pinemon View Post
Of course he feels like just an awful person. His whole life, you guilt-tripped him and pounded that into his head with all your trips to the Civil Rights Museum, Schindler's List, Mississippi Burning, etc...the common denominator of which is that heterosexual White males like him ARE AWFUL.

You lectured him to respect women, minorities, etc...but did you ever teach him to respect HIMSELF - first & foremost???

Love & respect for others all begins at home - with self-love. And I think that's the one area you neglected - and left him to now somehow find it on his own.
Excellent! I agree, his symptoms sound rooted in low self esteem
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-22-2015, 04:47 PM
 
8,000 posts, read 5,442,488 times
Reputation: 35599
Quote:
Originally Posted by cindersslipper View Post
Kids at that age have ONE preoccupation >>>being accepted by peers.

I would say your son is trying desperately to "fit in" with a group of little potential criminals.

This is a worry, for sure.

Not so much the N=words and all, but his desire to fit in with such filth. What sort of school is he at?

On the other hand - if you'd never abused his privacy in that way, you would never have known so - be careful what you snoop for.

I actually think YOU are more in the wrong than your son. You've just taught him he has no right to privacy nor his own thoughts on various matters.
I was all with you until your last two sentences. Not quite sure there is a right to privacy at 14. It is a developing age and some snooping is necessary at times. How do we guide them? Help them make the right choices? Guide them to the better paths? As parents have to be there to teach them things. If we see something going wrong we at least have to try to fix it. My job as a parent was to raise a responsible, independent adult. Teenage years they are trying to figure things out, be cool. Yes, I snooped when necessary.


I am really happy I had teenagers before the cell phone era. I remember having sketchy kids try to befriend my sons. When they called on the old fashion landline I would just say they were not home. 13-14 seems to be the age when kids start to think the bad kids are cool. I did everything in my power to stop that. I remember my own self at 13, my parents had switched me to a public school. I knew I was hanging out with the wrong girls, I hoped every night we would move. And we did move and I started all over again making better choices. I always told my sons if they felt they were in the wrong crowd, we could change schools.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Parenting

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top