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Old 04-13-2015, 03:31 PM
 
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No, there is no magical age. The moment that they have moved out and are on their own is when they get to start hanging out with whoever they want. Until that point, I'm paying their bills, I'm financially responsible for them, and they will live by my rules.
How old are your kids?
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Old 04-13-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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How old are your kids?
They range from 8 to 15, although that has no bearing on the case. The 15 year old still needs approval for who he hangs out with, and will until he's paying his own way.
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:14 PM
 
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They range from 8 to 15, although that has no bearing on the case. The 15 year old still needs approval for who he hangs out with, and will until he's paying his own way.
At 15 of course he does. My oldest son is 21. He chooses his own friends, with no input from me even though we are still paying for college. He is way to old for us to have to approve his friends.
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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At 15 of course he does. My oldest son is 21. He chooses his own friends, with no input from me even though we are still paying for college. He is way to old for us to have to approve his friends.
So, we apparently have different parenting styles. Yours works for you, mine works for me.
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:46 PM
 
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So, we apparently have different parenting styles. Yours works for you, mine works for me.
I guess so. My older sons are fine young men and I don't have to micromanage their lives any more. Remember-just because you can do something it doesn't mean you should do it.
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I guess so. My older sons are fine young men and I don't have to micromanage their lives any more. Remember-just because you can do something it doesn't mean you should do it.
The newspapers are filled with stories of fine young men who made really stupid decisions.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The newspapers are filled with stories of fine young men who made really stupid decisions.
I just have to say, "Holy Cats" (cleaned up a little from what I really wanted to say)!

Can't we take people at their word when they say their kids are "good kids"? Why do so many on this board, and I mean the whole parenting board not just this thread, get so judgy?

In regards to friends, even little kids sometimes have friends their parents don't like. Heck, there's plenty in the parenting literature about it. My kids did, my friends' kids did, etc. The general advice is usually that unless you have concrete evidence that the child is not a "good" kid, don't interfere.

Here's just one article:
What You Can Do When Your Teen Has a Friend You Don't Like | Alpha Mom

There are also many links to articles like "I don't like my friend's kids"; "I don't like my kid's friend's parents"; and the like.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I just have to say, "Holy Cats" (cleaned up a little from what I really wanted to say)!

Can't we take people at their word when they say their kids are "good kids"? Why do so many on this board, and I mean the whole parenting board not just this thread, get so judgy?

In regards to friends, even little kids sometimes have friends their parents don't like. Heck, there's plenty in the parenting literature about it. My kids did, my friends' kids did, etc. The general advice is usually that unless you have concrete evidence that the child is not a "good" kid, don't interfere.

Here's just one article:
What You Can Do When Your Teen Has a Friend You Don't Like | Alpha Mom

There are also many links to articles like "I don't like my friend's kids"; "I don't like my kid's friend's parents"; and the like.
At no time have I disputed that any of the mentioned children are good. What I have said is that young people make notoriously bad decisions, usually based on peer pressure.

As for parents letting their kids hang out with people they don't approve of, bully for them. It's our job as parents to raise responsible members of society, not to let our children do whatever they want with whoever they want.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Wherever life takes me.
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They range from 8 to 15, although that has no bearing on the case. The 15 year old still needs approval for who he hangs out with, and will until he's paying his own way.
Haha good luck controlling an 18 year old with their mind set.
You can't punish them anymore.
You cant ground someone 18+ because holding an adult somewhere for more than 6 hours is false imprisonment.

Have fun with that.
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Old 04-13-2015, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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At no time have I disputed that any of the mentioned children are good. What I have said is that young people make notoriously bad decisions, usually based on peer pressure.

As for parents letting their kids hang out with people they don't approve of, bully for them. It's our job as parents to raise responsible members of society, not to let our children do whatever they want with whoever they want.
Well, what was you point with that nasty crack? Momma_bear said HER sons were nice young men. Not buying your "peer pressure" backpedal.

My kids are grown. Over the years they had a few friends I didn't care for. I think anyone who says differently is prevaricating.
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