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You should add asking the weight and height of the children so you can determine if being overweight is what's causing people's children to have early puberty.
I think the real issue with early puberty is all of the hormones in meat, chicken and dairy. We eat organic dairy, natural chicken and beef and my kids are all average to late in entering puberty despite my youngest child's higher than average weight. Many food additives are endocrine disruptors and that is also causing early puberty in children in the US.
I think the real issue with early puberty is all of the hormones in meat, chicken and dairy. We eat organic dairy, natural chicken and beef and my kids are all average to late in entering puberty despite my youngest child's higher than average weight. Many food additives are endocrine disruptors and that is also causing early puberty in children in the US.
Hypocore's experience was the opposite of the hormone theory. Her biggest milk drinker started puberty the latest of all her children.
You should add asking the weight and height of the children so you can determine if being overweight is what's causing people's children to have early puberty.
Height has little to do with the start of puberty, WEIGHT, especially in girls, has a big impact on puberty. Girls need to have enough body fat to store enough estrogen in order to menstruate. Typically when girls reach about 100 lbs is when they start menstruating-on average. A tall, skinny girl actually tends to start puberty later than a shorter, not so skinny girl because of the lack of body fat. Genetics also plays a huge role in this.
In my experience, girls are starting puberty LATER. When I was growing up, ALL of my friends had their periods before 7th grade started (or shortly into 7th grade). DD and several of her friends did not get their periods until 8th grade here. None of the girls 'needed" bras until well into 7th grade-they all wore them because for whatever reason, it's the style. Most of the girls could have gotten by with just a tank top for extra coverage. When I was growing up, we all needed bras by 7th grade.
As for the boys, they are all over the place. Some of the kids' friends had voices changing in 6th grade, shaving mustaches at 12, etc. Most of the boys started shaving mustaches in 8th grade or so. I would say, that about a quarter of DS16's friends shave more than a mustache, maybe. Seniors in our high school probably a little over half have at least some beard to shave. Our oldest is a freshman in college and "behind" on the puberty scale-he only recently started shaving his "face". If he let his "beard" grow out, it would be about 1/2 of his face.
Height has little to do with the start of puberty, WEIGHT, especially in girls, has a big impact on puberty.
But height determines if a weight qualifies as overweight.
If people simply posted weights, we'd have no idea if their children are overweight without knowing their heights.
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In my experience, girls are starting puberty LATER. When I was growing up, ALL of my friends had their periods before 7th grade started (or shortly into 7th grade). DD and several of her friends did not get their periods until 8th grade here. None of the girls 'needed" bras until well into 7th grade-they all wore them because for whatever reason, it's the style. Most of the girls could have gotten by with just a tank top for extra coverage. When I was growing up, we all needed bras by 7th grade.
Perhaps your daughter and her classmates started school later than you and your classmates.
It happens when people move to different regions of the country after marriage.
Different states have different ages for starting school. Sometimes states change the start age at some point in time.
Seems logical that might be something to consider since you're going by grades, not age, for your comparison.
But height determines if a weight qualifies as overweight.
If people simply posted weights, we'd have no idea if their children are overweight without knowing their heights.
Perhaps your daughter and her classmates started school later than you and your classmates.
It happens when people move to different regions of the country after marriage.
Different states have different ages for starting school. Sometimes states change the start age at some point in time.
Seems logical that might be something to consider since you're going by grades, not age, for your comparison.
No, they started school pretty much the same time as I did-and my classmates did--cutoff here has been Sept 1st since I went off to kindergarten. To put it in ages-by the time my friends and I were 12 1/2, we had our periods, my DD's friends were closer to 14 or over 14 when they started.
That year I underwent a lot of dramatic changes. I had a growth spurt - on my 11th birthday (22 September 1997), I was about 5'0". On my 12th birthday, about 5'6". I was a little bit pudgy before; the thinnest I've ever been after. I was at the 98th percentile in height for a period of time. I'm 5'8 3/4" today - shorter than the median height for an American male, especially a white American male. Peers started complaining about my body odor. I saw the first zits on my forehead around Christmas 1997.
My voice changed the summer after fifth grade, from a high-pitched (but no higher than my peers) voice to an annoying monotone voice that I would have for about the next year, before it deepened again (it's still medium - high pitched in relation to other males' voices). I had my first wet dream (and sleeping over at my aunt's house!), although she didn't see any evidence of it. I grew hair on my armpits towards the end of the summer; I grew hair on my stomach, chest, and legs the next summer. I'm actually quite proud to be an early bloomer
I suppose the hormones might have been secreted during the Spring or Summer of 1997 (thereby making me 10 at the time of the changes), but in 5th grade the changes were really visible, so I'm going to say 11.
My DD is hasn't hit this stage yet. Hopefully she won't follow in my footsteps. I was a very early bloomer. I started with the hair and odor at age 6 (1985). I was still sharing a bath with my little sister who pointed it out to me. My mom couldn't believe it. I started my period at age 8 and was fully developed by 9. I was 5'7" and 104 lbs at age 9. I looked the same at age 9 as I did on the day of my wedding at 22. My face was only a bit more mature.
I have a 13 year old nephew who is 5'11" and 165 lbs. He has been shaving for 2 years. We started noticing his odors about 4 years ago. I remember we had to keep reminding him to wear deodorant.
He hasn't gotten his period yet though.
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