06-09-2011, 11:10 AM
Location: The Port City is rising.
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Ummm, so you just negated your own argument -- you have NO videos of teenagers behaving this way in Northern Virginia. Using your logic, I guess this is representative of the entire Midwest:Police study video of teen's fatal beating - Chicago Breaking News (http://archive.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/09/candlelight-vigil-scheduled-for-teen-beaten-to-death.html - broken link)
Im willing to bet there are some great teens living in DC and in Chicago. Ive certainly met great teens from NYC (recently, not when I was teen) and from Baltimore city, and from Alexandria City.
06-09-2011, 11:25 AM
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Im willing to bet there are some great teens living in DC and in Chicago. Ive certainly met great teens from NYC (recently, not when I was teen) and from Baltimore city, and from Alexandria City.
I guess I should have used the sarcasm face:
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06-09-2011, 11:51 AM
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Im willing to bet there are some great teens living in DC and in Chicago. Ive certainly met great teens from NYC (recently, not when I was teen) and from Baltimore city, and from Alexandria City.
Met some great teens and the norm are two totally different things. I am sure we can meet 'some great people' in Sudan or areas in Mexico where people are behead weekly too, that does not negated the big problem with homicides over there. I hate when this empty argument is used to downplay the significant homicide and crime problem plaguing America, because there are some great people within certain communities.
Suburban teenagers in the area are quite different to inner-city types. Suburban teens in the DC area have overinflated egos and assume they own the world. However, they do not go around shooting up the place and they are not the ones who turned almost every single inner-city in our nation into 3rd world countries. Inner-city teens tend to have a large number of single parent households; where grandma is looking out for the 3rd of 4th kid, from a 4th papa. They have no notion of authority or respect for the law, let alone appreciating the person who pays for their section 8 house. Assume somebody owes them something or it's somebody else to blame for their actions.
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06-09-2011, 04:13 PM
Location: South South Jersey
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You mean your anti-traffic principle is out the window so long as you get -- literally -- a free ride.
I'm assuming that I, Mr. Bowler Hat, and Ms... um.. whatever she was wearing would all be in one vehicle (and the Bowler Hats do not drive an SUV, thank you very much), were they to give me a ride someplace. So, at three people in one car, we'd be doing pretty well! No one-Escalade-per-person sort of stuff for us, indeed!
06-09-2011, 04:18 PM
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Im willing to bet there are some great teens living in DC and in Chicago. Ive certainly met great teens from NYC (recently, not when I was teen) and from Baltimore city, and from Alexandria City.
No one is denying that. You and I both grew up in NYC and I'm sure we were swell kids.
My post was merely a refutation of the idea that NoVa kids are like DC kids just because of the geographic propinquity... and arguing that, by the same logic, Iowa teens should be like Detroit teens since the other poster claimed that teens in "the Midwest" are so swell.
I lived in various parts of the Midwest for a while, including, yes, Iowa. I speak with personal experience and... logic.
06-09-2011, 05:12 PM
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I'm assuming that I, Mr. Bowler Hat, and Ms... um.. whatever she was wearing would all be in one vehicle (and the Bowler Hats do not drive an SUV, thank you very much), were they to give me a ride someplace. So, at three people in one car, we'd be doing pretty well! No one-Escalade-per-person sort of stuff for us, indeed!
But, but, but, if you didn't ride at all and just bicycled to work, then the car with those two folks would burn slightly less gas. Thus you will save the world. No?
"3-in-1 car good! 1-in-1 car bad!" for me has a little too much twinge of "anyone who drives faster than I do is crazy and anyone slower, stupid."
06-10-2011, 03:47 AM
Location: Manassas, VA
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I knew this thread would get a lot of traffic. Even though it isn't personal against anyone - I find that folks in this area (and this area and Vermont are all I have to compare) are wrapped tight around the axle when it comes to their kids and appearance or image sake. And with the amount that are offended at the notion that kids in general might not be as respectful living in this area....geez - lighten up. Most kids around here 'don't do anything wrong'. It is always the teachers, the other kids, the other parents, the bad things on tv, etc., it's never the kids
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06-10-2011, 06:35 AM
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I knew this thread would get a lot of traffic. Even though it isn't personal against anyone - I find that folks in this area (and this area and Vermont are all I have to compare) are wrapped tight around the axle when it comes to their kids and appearance or image sake. And with the amount that are offended at the notion that kids in general might not be as respectful living in this area....geez - lighten up. Most kids around here 'don't do anything wrong'. It is always the teachers, the other kids, the other parents, the bad things on tv, etc., it's never the kids
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How sage of you. You think a post that claims that a region where average student performance is very good has more behavioral issues is going to get a lot of negative responses?
I lived in over a dozen states states on the West Coast, in the Midwest, in New England, in the Mid-Atlantic and in the South. Whenever I observed misbehaving children, the common denominator was always lack of parental supervision (and by supervision, I don't mean simply being where their children were physicially). Although I have my speculation about this issue (let's just say I've seen more problems in urban areas than in suburban or rural areas, but that could be for a host of reasons), I don't have enough evidence to say that one region or another produces better (or worse) behaving kids.
Certainly I have not seen any evidence that children in this region (NoVA) misbehave at a higher rate than those in others.
If we are to go by personal anecdotes, I'd say the children in this region behave the best and are the most respectful *I*'ve ever seen. But that probably has to do with the fact that most kids I've seen here are home schooled by very traditional parents. YMMV.
06-10-2011, 06:40 AM
Location: Reston
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At the least the OP admitted he was just trying to stir you folks up -- and it worked.
Someone does this at least once a day on this forum. I actually find it a useful tool for reminding me I'm spending too much time on the internet.
06-10-2011, 06:57 AM
Location: Manassas, VA
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LOL.....Thank you for proving my point IndiaLimaDelta....sheesh....was is it with this area? So uptight....sooooo uptight..... Read what I said - I said that from the two areas that I can compare - people here just get so upset at the thought that anyone could say anything negative when it comes to kids. I NEVER said that kids in this area have more behavioral issues....
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People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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