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View Poll Results: Will you comply with a city issued shelter in place order?
Yes 132 74.16%
No 46 25.84%
Voters: 178. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-15-2020, 09:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by vision33r View Post
That's the wrong approach, it's slowing down because of people staying inside and wear protection. The min people go back out and given a false sense of security. The death rate will spike. Without a vaccine or treatment for the virus, it will be suicide to open things back up unless you plan on sending more people to hospitals and their graves.
Tell that to Trump and Cuomo. That's unless if you want to do 18-24 months of closure and no work? Even if a Vaccine comes out in 18 months, it will take time to deploy and months to treat 330 million Americans. I know alot of people especially in academia who do not mind such approach. Remember folks value safety and security over freedom and independence. Very crucial issues themes of issues during times of emergency.

Maybe if the United States were socialist it would be possible to do a 2 year lock down. Since the United States is capitalist, the country can not survive a long lock down. 3 month lock down or more will put the United States into a depression.

What would be the best option is for Americans who choose to go back to work, should get hazard pay of some sort or some sort of increased pay, while those who do not want to go back to work, can work for home and wait 18-24 months to vaccine. If not recieve IU and Snap during the time to wait out for a vaccine.

Also if America was total socialist. It would be interesting for united states to fully lock down NY and nyc. Imagine having the military to deliver average food and mres to people who live in the uws and ues of Manhattan who love in their privlidge towers and have to feed the same type of food to those who live in NYCHA. In communist China, Chinese military ahd to deliver food to people who are quanrtiend by force of the state.

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Old 04-15-2020, 09:33 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Originally Posted by Checkmarkblue View Post
Tell that to Trump and Cuomo. That's unless if you want to do 18-24 months of closure and no work? Even if a Vaccine comes out in 18 months, it will take time to deploy and months to treat 330 million Americans. I know alot of people especially in academia who do not mind such approach. Remember folks value safety and security over freedom and independence. Very crucial issues themes of issues during times of emergency.

Maybe if the United States were socialist it would be possible to do a 2 year lock down. Since the United States is capitalist, the country can not survive a long lock down. 3 month lock down or more will put the United States into a depression.

What would be the best option is for Americans who choose to go back to work, should get hazard pay of some sort or some sort of increased pay, while those who do not want to go back to work, can work for home and wait 18-24 months to vaccine. If not recieve IU and Snap during the time to wait out for a vaccine.
There are countries with functioning democracies with a free press and an economy working under free market principles that are essentially back open for business or never closed to the extent the US is and that's without a vaccine.
 
Old 04-15-2020, 10:06 AM
 
Location: western NY
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Originally Posted by Checkmarkblue View Post
Tell that to Trump and Cuomo. That's unless if you want to do 18-24 months of closure and no work? Even if a Vaccine comes out in 18 months, it will take time to deploy and months to treat 330 million Americans. I know a lot of people especially in academia who do not mind such approach. Remember, folks value safety and security over freedom and independence. Very crucial issues themes of issues during times of emergency.

Maybe if the United States were socialist it would be possible to do a 2 year lock down. Since the United States is capitalist, the country can not survive a long lock down. 3 month lock down or more will put the United States into a depression.

What would be the best option is for Americans who choose to go back to work, should get hazard pay of some sort or some sort of increased pay, while those who do not want to go back to work, can work for home and wait 18-24 months to vaccine. If not receive IU and Snap during the time to wait out for a vaccine.
I agree..
 
Old 04-15-2020, 10:22 AM
 
Location: close to home
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There are countries with functioning democracies with a free press and an economy working under free market principles that are essentially back open for business or never closed to the extent the US is and that's without a vaccine.
Thank you.
 
Old 04-15-2020, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Originally Posted by leoliu View Post

"thanks for your beautiful thoughts... ...leoliu and his family are better than fine...
leoliu got too busy and exhausted in fighting the CCP-believers and trump-believers who
are apparently so misled in their life course to this point......CCP and Trump should
assume total responsibility for this pandemic that claimed so many innocent lives across
the globe...it is sad to see that those at the bottom of food chains on both sides pointing
fingers at each other while failing to recognize that they share a common identify in this
whole tragedy: VICTIM...



leoliu felt that he had said enough on this chinavirus and is ready to retreat to enjoying
the remaining shelter in place time before life goes into normal routine. Peace and health
to you and your loved ones and many others who have their heart and mind in the right
place...

26


talking about yourself in the third person..............(LoL, the arrogance...)







"Trump should assume total responsibility for this pandemic that claimed so many innocent lives across the globe. . ."


It’s not the President’s fault for this world pandemic, virus/disease born&slipped out of china...


Thank God we have a strong President – no matter how much you don’t like his personality.




"Trump should assume total responsibility for this pandemic that claimed so many innocent lives across the globe. . ."


blaming the president.....
 
Old 04-15-2020, 11:02 AM
 
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Today's Cuomo Update







He also echo'd what I said yesterday that a Vaccine is still 12-18 months away but there will be other treatments soon that will help tremendously for us to get back to a "new normal" sooner until a vaccine is ready.

Antibody testing, Plasma, Hydrochloroquine all mentioned as possibilities by the governor.

Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlTXHVbQnRc
 
Old 04-15-2020, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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That dude probably doesn't have Covid19.
...
 
Old 04-15-2020, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Anyway, listening to Cuomo right now.
When you're out in public and can't social distance...
mandatory to wear a mask! (or any kind of cloth covering your nose and mouth).

Last edited by Aeran; 04-15-2020 at 11:27 AM..
 
Old 04-15-2020, 11:19 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Aeran View Post
Anyway, listening to Cuomo right now.
Wearing masks when you're out in public and can't social distance...
mandatory to wear a mask! (or any kind of cloth like covering your nose and mouth).
Seems like there's not a penalty for violating at least.

Not yet.
 
Old 04-15-2020, 11:26 AM
 
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It's common sense, if you haven't already been doing this then I don't know what to say. We shouldn't need a "Law" to do what's right. But here we are.
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