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Old 08-25-2018, 08:06 AM
 
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Infatuation is the next stage after a crush. In Thanos' case, it became obsession. But I think you already know that. The link I used was a handy one. Like this one. That's about it.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/2/12/16...ined-backstory
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Old 08-25-2018, 08:55 AM
 
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Infatuation is the next stage after a crush. In Thanos' case, it became obsession. But I think you already know that. The link I used was a handy one. Like this one. That's about it.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/2/12/16...ined-backstory
It's not relevant what word someone used in a post in this thread.

An "obsession" with death still would not have worked as an acceptable motivation for Thanos in this movie.

Remember that the comics took a long, long time and a lot of ink developing that backstory for Thanos, time which was not available in the movie.

The motivation they did use is a concept that had already been hovering around Western circles for a few hundred years.
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Old 08-25-2018, 09:23 AM
 
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It's not relevant what word someone used in a post in this thread.
It is when somebody tries to "correct" you for no good reason.

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An "obsession" with death still would not have worked as an acceptable motivation for Thanos in this movie.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

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Remember that the comics took a long, long time and a lot of ink developing that backstory for Thanos, time which was not available in the movie.
It could have been interwoven throughout the Guardians movies had they not shifted gears. But for whatever reason, Marvel enjoys dumbing things down. Look at Civil War.

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The motivation they did use is a concept that had already been hovering around Western circles for a few hundred years.
Of course. Which makes him less unique. Without the Infinity Gauntlet, Thanos is another punching bag who the Hulk should be able to make quick work of.
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Old 08-25-2018, 09:51 AM
 
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It is when somebody tries to "correct" you for no good reason.
Um... It wasn't for no good reason. I was just showing you the relationship between the words "crush" and "infatuated." Also, it was partly done with tongue-in-cheek, which is why I included the wink emoticon. However, like the dictionary definition stated, Thanos' so-called love for Death was foolish and extravagant, and was more of an obsession than it was a genuine emotion of love.

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It could have been interwoven throughout the Guardians movies had they not shifted gears. But for whatever reason, Marvel enjoys dumbing things down. Look at Civil War.
Yes, dumbing things down to a tune of 14 billion dollars.
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Old 08-25-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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It could have been interwoven throughout the Guardians movies had they not shifted gears. -
Not that easily. In the comics, the whole Thanos/Hela thing involved a range of plot-significant characters that had been part of the Marvel universe since the 60s (including Hela herself, Mephisto, the Silver Surfer, et cetera). It had built-in backstory.

You're suggesting that the Guardians movies take on an entirely separate plot line that would have had to be as significantly developed as the primary plot--essentially adding maybe thirty minutes to each movie devoted to Thanos.

[quote]But for whatever reason, Marvel enjoys dumbing things down. Look at Civil War.

There was to some extent the same problem with Civil War, which did result in a poorly motivated, much criticized "play fight" between MCU heroes.

You're suggesting that since Marvel made that mistake once, they should have made the same mistake twice.
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Old 08-25-2018, 01:19 PM
 
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Yes, dumbing things down to a tune of 14 billion dollars.
Sure. As we all know, "money = quality" is the correct equation nowadays. $1B or bust.
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Old 08-25-2018, 01:21 PM
 
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You're suggesting that since Marvel made that mistake once, they should have made the same mistake twice.
Not at all. They could easily leave out Surfer. Hela, too. I just think it would've been more interesting. As you were.
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Old 08-25-2018, 04:55 PM
 
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Sure. As we all know, "money = quality" is the correct equation nowadays. $1B or bust.
Come on now, AFtrEFkt... That's an old tired defense because if the MCU has made that type of money, then someone's patronizing and is enjoying their films, and people aren't just going to see them for no reason:

Office History for Marvel Cinematic Universe Movies (Also, in my other post, I should have said 17 billion instead of 14 billion, but sometimes it's hard to keep up since the MCU keeps raking in so much money for some reason. )

Also, compare the box office of the two movies below:

Avengers: Infinity War

Justice League

Or perhaps the first Avengers is more of an apples to apples comparison:

Marvel's The Avengers
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Old 08-25-2018, 06:08 PM
 
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Come on now, AFtrEFkt... That's an old tired defense because if the MCU has made that type of money, then someone's patronizing and is enjoying their films, and people aren't just going to see them for no reason:

Office History for Marvel Cinematic Universe Movies (Also, in my other post, I should have said 17 billion instead of 14 billion, but sometimes it's hard to keep up since the MCU keeps raking in so much money for some reason. )

Also, compare the box office of the two movies below:

Avengers: Infinity War

Justice League

Or perhaps the first Avengers is more of an apples to apples comparison:

Marvel's The Avengers
What's your point? Everyone knows Justice League bombed. They spent money making it, then they spent more money (too much) changing it. And then it severely underperformed.

As to your point about people patronizing and enjoying, etc., again, beside the point. But something about Ant-Man & The Wasp didn't quite hit: After seven weeks, its domestic take is 210 million. It took China to push it over the 500 million mark.

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Old 08-25-2018, 09:50 PM
 
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What's your point? Everyone knows Justice League bombed. . .
I think that you just stated the point.

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They spent money making it, then they spent more money (too much) changing it. And then it severely underperformed.
Yep... Sounds like Warner Bros./DC is making(had made) a lot of wrong decisions. Especially compared to the MCU.

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As to your point about people patronizing and enjoying, etc., again, beside the point.
lol Oh really?

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But something about Ant-Man & The Wasp didn't quite hit: After seven weeks, its domestic take is 210 million. It took China to push it over the 500 million mark.
So then you use an example of one of the MCU's franchises that isn't expected to be a hit like a lot of their other franchises to defend your position... Um, okay.
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