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Old 08-28-2023, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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Legault government to table yet another action plan for French in the fall.... I wonder what xenophobic mess this will become

This province is becoming a **** show again....
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Old 08-28-2023, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Another view is that this was spurred by a series of factors that people actually need to take ownership for.

The Canadian census continues to reveal more and more people in Quebec (either from here or moving here) who don't speak French, and real life situations of often defiant refusal to learn, use or hear French are on the increase to anyone who has their eyes and ears open.

Even very francophone areas have seen an upsurge of businesses and residents who are arguably hostile to French.

A great example is the fact that a restaurant opened in Quebec City of all places with English only menus and service staff who only spoke English. The excuse was that they couldn't find anyone to create a French menu or who could speak French with customers - in a city of hundreds of thousands of people that is 98% francophone.

Recommended reading:

Québec Language Politics for Dummies: FAFO Edition

Yes, I remember reading about that. My first reaction was asking myself out loud why did this restaurateur choose to move to Quebec City or Quebec Province at all and open a restaurant there when he could have chosen any other province. Surely as a Korean, he would not open a restaurant in China if he and his staff did not know a word of Chinese, right? My guess is because the restaurateur must have seen economic advantage in being in Quebec City, after all Quebec City is not known to have many authentic Asian restaurants.
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Old 08-28-2023, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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it is necessary if you want to stay in power, if the electorate sense you are going soft on the language issue then you are toast next time people hit the voting booth

french is a hard sell anywhere nowadays, it has lost most of its economic, politic and cultural prestige long ago

on top of this, Quebec french is often depicted as the dumbed-down, slacked-jaw , yokel version

so they will keep enacting ever more stringent, restrictive laws and regulations no matter the cost
Yeah lots of people are prejudiced and borderline racist against French Canadians and their language, and their numbers seem to be increasing here. Good point. Thanks for bringing it up.
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Old 08-30-2023, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Montreal > Quebec > Canada
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To be honest, I saw more guns growing up in Ville LaSalle during the 70s and 80s in the Italian poolhalls than I have seen living in the US the last 25 years. You should be more worried about your kids safety in the hands of your third world medical system.
Life expectancy in New Hampshire : 79.7 years
Life expectancy in Quebec : 82.9 years

Our “third world medical system” seems to be doing something right
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Old 08-30-2023, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I think Quebec might have the highest life expectancy of all the provinces and states at this point.

We have lots of problems with our healthcare system (and life expectancy isn't just related to that system) but people shouldn't exaggerate to score nasty low-blow political points.
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Old 08-30-2023, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Southern New Hampshire
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Life expectancy in New Hampshire : 79.7 years
Life expectancy in Quebec : 82.9 years

Our “third world medical system” seems to be doing something right
Must be all the guns.
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Old 08-30-2023, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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Life expectancy in New Hampshire : 79.7 years
Life expectancy in Quebec : 82.9 years

Our “third world medical system” seems to be doing something right
Also helps that we have a healthy bike/walk culture and higher food quality/standards than the U.S.

Our Healthcare system needs upgrading asap, but we're definitely a lot better than the U.S. Even my wife (Miami born) says her health improved here due to all the walking/biking and access to fresher foods, Quebec excels in this regard.
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Old 08-31-2023, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Also helps that we have a healthy bike/walk culture and higher food quality/standards than the U.S.

Our Healthcare system needs upgrading asap, but we're definitely a lot better than the U.S. Even my wife (Miami born) says her health improved here due to all the walking/biking and access to fresher foods, Quebec excels in this regard.
Wake up
Get in car, sit on your ass and drive to work
Eat junk in car
Get to work and sit on your ass yet again… For 8 hours. Include lunch with coworkers somewhere in there.
Get in your car, sit on your ass, drive home.
Get home, drink beer, sit on your ass while eating dinner and watching football.
Shower and go sleep.

Yeah, things would be considerably different here if the infrastructure encouraged more of a bike/walk culture. We are WAY too dependent on cars, and the way these cities are built makes it virtually impossible to get around on foot unless one lives in the select few, small urban nodes the cities have.
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Old 08-31-2023, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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I think Quebec might have the highest life expectancy of all the provinces and states at this point.

We have lots of problems with our healthcare system (and life expectancy isn't just related to that system) but people shouldn't exaggerate to score nasty low-blow political points.
The difference is statistically irrelevant.

For 2020 the top 3.

Quebec 82.34

BC. 82.19

Ontario 82.14

Depending on the year these change of course, but suffice to say, it's negligible.

Overall Canada does well, except for Nunavut.

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Old 08-31-2023, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The difference is statistically irrelevant.

For 2020 the top 3.

Quebec 82.34

BC. 82.19

Ontario 82.14

Depending on the year these change of course, but suffice to say, it's negligible.

Overall Canada does well, except for Nunavut.
It's about 75-76 (and dropping I'm pretty sure) in Michigan, where I believe Leroy lives.
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