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Old 05-17-2018, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I really like and adore Verboczy's statement.


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It's funny that Akos' name came up on here. I did not know he was that well-known - at least in city-data circles.


I don't really know him but met him on a Quebec game show we were both on about 20 years ago or so. He was just a teenager back then. Already an interesting individual at that point - a Hungarian-born immigrant kid who was almost an encyclopedia of Quebec culture and history.


Then some years later I saw him on TV talking politics and said... hey I know that guy!

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Old 05-17-2018, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I read an account of a Francophone family that moved to a West-Island neighborhood from some other region of Quebec, but later decided to move to eastern Montreal because it was so difficult to raise their children in French in Ouest-de-l'ÃŽle Montreal.
I guess it depends on your point of view and experience.


Marc Cassivi was born of immigrant parents and grew up on the West Island. Became a francophone media guy who covers Québécois culture.


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Old 05-17-2018, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Yes, Latin Americans and African francophones are more favorable and positive towards Québec's French offers, Indians not at all.
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Well there is Sugar Sammy. And... oh, never mind.
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Old 05-17-2018, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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. It would not surprise me, though, if in communities with significant Anglophone populations, young Francophone kids bear the brunt of bilingualism (i.e., they speak English with neighborhood Anglophone children and not the other way around). .

It depends what you mean by "significant anglophone populations". Most parts of Gatineau have anglos around, but they're not the majority in any of the electoral districts or neighbourhoods of the city. In some parts of Aylmer though they're close to half the population. (I suppose certain anglo enclaves in western Montreal may be more "anglo-normative" in this respect though.)


In my experience as a parent over the past 12 years, in most of Gatineau it's definitely not the francophone kids who bear the brunt of bilingualism. The anglo kids generally have way better French than the English of the francophone kids.


I am sure there are groups numerically dominated by anglo kids where the franco kids there talk in English most of the time, but in my experience groups with a mix of francophone and anglophone kids tend to "operate" in both languages.


My kids all have kids from anglo families in their social milieu (including some that go to our anglo high schools Philemon Wright and D'Arcy McGee) but they socialize in French with maybe the occasional sentence or expression in English like "as if", "love you" or "gimme a break".


Source: my backyard and basement over the past dozen years
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Old 05-17-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Jacob Tierney, grew up in Montreal West, a small enclave in western Montreal that I believe is even more "anglo" than Westmount.



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Old 05-17-2018, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Alex Burrows, from ÃŽle-Perrot, the westermost part of the West Island



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Old 05-17-2018, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Matt Holubowski, a singer from the Hudson area (almost in Ontario at that point).



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Old 05-17-2018, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Yolande James. Grew up on the West Island. Both parents are Anglo-Caribbean.



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Old 05-17-2018, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Singer Paul Cargnello, also from the West Island.



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Old 05-17-2018, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Sam Roberts. Guess where he is from.



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