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Now I truely AM confused...You only have to serve 2 years minimum active service, but you have to sign on for 8? So after you serve your active, they cant come find you/drag you out of college, work,etc and make you go back and serve more active time out of the blue? That would be my worst fear.
All all branches of military the same amount of time commitment?
Also..just wondering..and this is a random side note..what branches of military use military working dogs? I know theyre trained at Lackland, but do other branches use them? What qualifications would you have to have to become trained as a handler? (that is something interesting to me. even more so than aviation--which ive been raised in)
ALSO..IF YOU ENLIST AFTER HAVING ALREADY A COUPLE YEARS OF COLLEGE UNDER YOUR BELT, do you get placed in a better position? I was dual enrolled in community college all during high school, and have 45 college credits, so its gonna take my 2 years to get my bachelors once i figure out what i want to do :\
Now I truely AM confused...You only have to serve 2 years minimum active service, but you have to sign on for 8? So after you serve your active, they cant come find you/drag you out of college, work,etc and make you go back and serve more active time out of the blue? That would be my worst fear.
All all branches of military the same amount of time commitment?
Also..just wondering..and this is a random side note..what branches of military use military working dogs? I know theyre trained at Lackland, but do other branches use them? What qualifications would you have to have to become trained as a handler? (that is something interesting to me. even more so than aviation--which ive been raised in)
I think all branches use working dog's.
For Army dog handlers they have to be qualified Military Policeman to begin with. That may have changed over the years...
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ALSO..IF YOU ENLIST AFTER HAVING ALREADY A COUPLE YEARS OF COLLEGE UNDER YOUR BELT, do you get placed in a better position? I was dual enrolled in community college all during high school, and have 45 college credits, so its gonna take my 2 years to get my bachelors once i figure out what i want to do :\
You may get a grade or to higher. It depends on a lot of factors.
Now I truely AM confused...You only have to serve 2 years minimum active service, but you have to sign on for 8? So after you serve your active, they cant come find you/drag you out of college, work,etc and make you go back and serve more active time out of the blue? That would be my worst fear.
All all branches of military the same amount of time commitment?
Also..just wondering..and this is a random side note..what branches of military use military working dogs? I know theyre trained at Lackland, but do other branches use them? What qualifications would you have to have to become trained as a handler? (that is something interesting to me. even more so than aviation--which ive been raised in)
ALSO..IF YOU ENLIST AFTER HAVING ALREADY A COUPLE YEARS OF COLLEGE UNDER YOUR BELT, do you get placed in a better position? I was dual enrolled in community college all during high school, and have 45 college credits, so its gonna take my 2 years to get my bachelors once i figure out what i want to do :\
1. "You only have to serve 2 years minimum active service, but you have to sign on for 8? So after you serve your active, they cant come find you/drag you out of college, work,etc and make you go back and serve more active time out of the blue?"
Yes. It's uncommon, but it does happen.
2. "All all branches of military the same amount of time commitment?"
Same *total* time commitment, yes. Active commitment varies by service.
3. "Also..just wondering..and this is a random side note..what branches of military use military working dogs?"
Army and Navy for sure. I'm fairly sure AF and Marines do, also.
4. "What qualifications would you have to have to become trained as a handler?"
Be a Military Policeman (for the Army).
5. "IF YOU ENLIST AFTER HAVING ALREADY A COUPLE YEARS OF COLLEGE UNDER YOUR BELT, do you get placed in a better position?"
You might get a higher rank to start (like Specialist instead of Private First Class), and they may initially consider it when placing you in positions in your unit for first assignment, but you won't always or automatically get a "better" position.
Over time, they are interested in Soldiers' performance, not in whether the Soldier did time in college-so over time, this distinction between those who went to college and those who enlisted out of high school will strip away (if it ever existed in the first place for that individual Soldier). A sh**bag who went to college would still be a sh**bag.
Now I truely AM confused...You only have to serve 2 years minimum active service, but you have to sign on for 8? So after you serve your active, they cant come find you/drag you out of college, work,etc and make you go back and serve more active time out of the blue? That would be my worst fear.
Yes, that is how it works.
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... All all branches of military the same amount of time commitment?
Yes.
Consider this. I did 20+ years and got a pension. Now at any time they could call me up, if a need arose.
But how often do you need more sailors? Usually if a war broke-out they would first need more ships. Since all of our ships are already at sea working, simply bringing in all of the old sailors they would have no where to serve. There would be a huge time delay as we first nationalized shipyards to overhaul the mothball fleet.
Infantry on the other hand, is different. All infantry needs is uniforms and rifles, and they can go to work almost instantly.
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Also..just wondering..and this is a random side note..what branches of military use military working dogs?
All.
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I know theyre trained at Lackland, but do other branches use them? What qualifications would you have to have to become trained as a handler?
Lackland does the training.
I was a submariner. However instead of doing 20 years straight at sea on subs, I was able to break it up a bit and do two tours of law enforcement. My Police Academy was Lackland. We were there with Army, AF, Marines and Navy.
Lackland also trained our WD handlers.
One nice thing about the Navy is that you can have one job for while you are at sea, I am a submarine ET and as such I made 17 deployments.
Then if you rotate for shore-duty you can be trained for completely different types of jobs. In my case I did LEO work overseas for a couple deployments.
Military police..whic brings up my next stupid, nieve question (geez you people must really be gettin tired of it. lol. sorry ..What prior training, qualifications, time served to you have to be to get into THAT program? And is there navy military police?
You only have to serve 2 years minimum active service, but you have to sign on for 8? So after you serve your active, they cant come find you/drag you out of college, work,etc and make you go back and serve more active time out of the blue? That would be my worst fear.
This has only happened in the last few years with the Army stretched thin. They called back critical fields which required either a lot of training or they were short in. Mostly MP's and EOD if I remember correctly.
Here's the deal you enlist for 2 years active you have 6 years Inactive Reserves Requirement.
4 years Active 4 years IRR....6 years active 2 years IRR...
All all branches of military the same amount of time commitment?
Yes....
Also..just wondering..and this is a random side note..what branches of military use military working dogs? I know theyre trained at Lackland, but do other branches use them?
All branches of the military have their own dog pound guys. They are all in the LEO fields. The Navy is MAA rate...
What qualifications would you have to have to become trained as a handler? (that is something interesting to me. even more so than aviation--which ive been raised in)
Once you are in the field then politics, needs of the service, and other crap enters the picture your civilian skills count for squat 99% of the time....
Example
I was a Navy ET, a guy I served with had a Bachelors of Education degree from Brown University with a spec. in foreign languages. He spoke Hebrew, Arabic, Spanish, and some French. His recruiter told him he could switch to CTI in basic and it would be easy. He was a little ticked off at the recruiter when he found out the hard way. Our Lt. who was a former CT detailer processed the paper work at his first command to do the ratings change, his exact words were whatever is best for the recruiter not for the Navy...
ALSO..IF YOU ENLIST AFTER HAVING ALREADY A COUPLE YEARS OF COLLEGE UNDER YOUR BELT, do you get placed in a better position? I was dual enrolled in community college all during high school, and have 45 college credits, so its gonna take my 2 years to get my bachelors once i figure out what i want to do :\[/quote]
College Credits:
E-2 -- Authorized enlistment in, or advancement to, paygrade E2 having completed 24 semester hours or 36 quarter hours of college credits at an accredited educational institution. E-3 -- Authorized enlistment in, or advancement to, paygrade E3 having completed 48 or more semester hours or 72 or more quarter hours of college credits at an accredited educational institution.
Military police..whic brings up my next stupid, nieve question (geez you people must really be gettin tired of it. lol. sorry ..What prior training, qualifications, time served to you have to be to get into THAT program? And is there navy military police?
For Army, it boils down to clean record and the same kind of background you need to get/maintain a minor security clearance (confidential). That's it. They'll train you. By "clean record"-if you've been busted for minor in possession (drugs or alcohol) or any drug offense, rule it out. I actually took the list off:
If you want to be in the Navy, you must get an A-School, on your contract. No verbal promises.
I know everyone else has said it, and there is a REASON we are all repeating it. Its the one concrete way that recruiters can attempt to *********. This one is really important.
Other than that - go for it. Don't let the 8 year commit bother you - many folks want to do some reserve duty after their active time, anyway, especially if they are in college - the benefits work out nicely.
There are Navy military police - its the Master At Arms (MAA) rate. I'm not sure how you get the additional working dog training - you may need to be a petty officer before they'll send you to the school, which requires a) time and b) work.
Keep in mind that MAA is not really a sea-going rate. Some people love going to sea, and some hate it. If you don't want to go to sea, join the Air Force. I think the AF shore life is a little nicer.
Military police..whic brings up my next stupid, nieve question (geez you people must really be gettin tired of it. lol. sorry ..What prior training, qualifications, time served to you have to be to get into THAT program? And is there navy military police?
Long ago they only wanted NCOs. But today any recruit can sign up for it. The rate is M.A.
You sound quite unsure where to go, or what questions to ask at this point. Do what I suggested in post #2. Study the rates that are offerred for all the groups (Airman, Fireman, and Seaman). Make a list of what interests you, and learn the ASVAB minimum qualifications for each rate that interests you.
My personal opinion is this: You are young and have a lot of time in front of you. Get a two year degree first, and then focus your attention on a military career. I know it is not what you wanted to hear, but it is what's in your best interest.
If you choose to ignore my opinion, and go military now, make the recruiter WORK FOR YOU. Do not trust his word at face value. SECURE AN "A" SCHOOL BEFORE YOU SIGN. Make sure your parents are part of the discussion with the recruiter. This is a serious decision. DO NOT TAKE IT LIGHTLY. You need to take care of #1 before anything else. If you do not know what that means, ask your Dad.
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(that is something interesting to me. even more so than aviation--which ive been raised in)
..What prior training, qualifications, time served to you have to be to get into THAT program? And is there navy military police?
