Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Somerville, Harvard: neighborhoods, garden, barbershop)

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

Just because someone is willing to take a risk does not mean that they do not value their life that is a flawed philosophical idea.

the barber has the choice not to work and the customer has a choice not to go into a barber if he does not want to take the risk. Both parties know the risk.

its like prostitution both parties are consenting whether wrong or right.

if you don't want to take a risk then never get into a car. Infact a life without risk could be considered a life of less value. life is not garenteed anyone could die at any time. just like you have a right not to go into a barber if you think its risky i have a right to go into the barber if i want a damn haircut. the barber knows the risks too.

You either just want to argue or you don't have any idea how dangerous this virus is, I'm not sure which but I'm done discussing it with you

[justyouraveragetenant]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

You either just want to argue or you don't have any idea how dangerous this virus is, I'm not sure which but I'm done discussing it with you

your not discussing it because i am making good points. if we do see a spike a dramatic spike or get a second wave i will change my opinion. with the numbers out now i think the restrictions we are doing are enough. its not like we are having concerts and air travel has significantly slowed down. if we get a second wave of this i will admit i was 100 percent wrong. infact i am worried about a second wave but until that happens we can only go on what we see. look you do know in life people have different opinions and just because someone has a different opinion then me do i call them stupid ?no. even people on this thread that think they 100 percent agree that does not happen. its a fact of life.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

if you are immuned compromised or of older age you can stay home which are the instructions. if people like that never leave the house and follow instructions then they are not at risk.

instead of giving a reason you only insult you suck at debate.

Go back and read through the thread, it has already been discussed ad nauseam here. After educating yourself a little better on community transmission, the dangers and risk factors, health consequences on the otherwise healthy people, the current spike in cases, etc.; then feel free to come back and have an intelligent discussion, but until then I am not wasting any more breaths on you.

[justyouraveragetenant]

Originally Posted by massnative71

Thank you. I usually have no problem letting the stupid be stupid, but not when they are putting all of our lives in jeopardy.

well supermarkets are still open and the customer might transmit to the employee and vice a versa.

dont argue or debate on forums because people are emotional creatures .

[massnative71]

2600 new cases, 70 more deaths.



https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/04...600-new-cases/

[Bridge781]

Seems like everyone seems to think the place to get the virus is the grocery store. People aren’t going to stop going to the grocery store so this thing isn’t going to stop.

I really wish they could name a place where the people are contracting this. Walking down the street? The grocery store? In an Uber? On the bags of groceries delivered? The mailman? I mean really unless you caught it from someone you live with or just aren’t practicing social distancing I’d love to know the top places the spread is happening.

[GeoffD]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

You either just want to argue or you don't have any idea how dangerous this virus is, I'm not sure which but I'm done discussing it with you

Except that it’s a valid argument. Look at who is landing in the hospital. Not many under the age of 50. I’m 61. I’m benched until there is a vaccine or a successful containment program (which ain’t gonna happen in the United States). Any time I’m in a public place, I have no choice but to adopt germ-o-phobe behavior. I can’t be around people who don’t practice social distancing unless they’re immune and we aren’t antibody testing so I can’t identify immune people. A Millennial doesn’t have to behave that way. They just can’t visit their parents.

I’m affluent enough that I don’t have to risk contracting the disease. My girlfriend telecommutes and it’s unlikely she will be face to face in a work environment for months. The problem is that there are a huge number of at risk people who don’t have either of those options. The majority of jobs can’t telecommute. People live in multi-generational households because it’s what they can afford. The brunt of the risk is born by the lowest socioeconomic classes. Money and 21st century job skills give you choices.

[justyouraveragetenant]

Thank you for seeing my argument i was not trying to be confrontational. Sure there are reports of people who are young dying of this that are healthy but the number seems so so low and they are a anomoly. The risk is much higher for someone over 60.

I find going to a grocery store way more dangerous then going to a barber. Look at how many people we come in contact with. I have seen doctors videos where 6 feet is not enough distance if someone coughs or sneezes.

Its funny the people who are so concerned on this post about peoples health during this virus are not concerned with the economic impact this is having on buisnesses. when trying to discuss the economic side to this that argument is ignored and not responded to. They don't seem to have any empathy for the buisness owners in this situation.

I have heard of a tiny amount of barbers taking private appointments in their own house. They can not do it in their barber shop or they could lose their liscense. I am trying to find the video but one barber set some rules when seeing customers privately. They must not be sick at all. Which still does not guarentee their saftey. There is one barber shop near where i live that has a sign that she will do private appointments only.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8gkMsr1UeY

[Shrewsburried]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

Except that it’s a valid argument. Look at who is landing in the hospital. Not many under the age of 50. I’m 61. I’m benched until there is a vaccine or a successful containment program (which ain’t gonna happen in the United States). Any time I’m in a public place, I have no choice but to adopt germ-o-phobe behavior. I can’t be around people who don’t practice social distancing unless they’re immune and we aren’t antibody testing so I can’t identify immune people. A Millennial doesn’t have to behave that way. They just can’t visit their parents.

I’m affluent enough that I don’t have to risk contracting the disease. My girlfriend telecommutes and it’s unlikely she will be face to face in a work environment for months. The problem is that there are a huge number of at risk people who don’t have either of those options. The majority of jobs can’t telecommute. People live in multi-generational households because it’s what they can afford. The brunt of the risk is born by the lowest socioeconomic classes. Money and 21st century job skills give you choices.

Lethality by demographics currently shows a .4% lethality rate for 40-49. Hospitalization rate much higher. 50-59 is at 1.3%. That's a significant portion of the working population.

What does September look like? Rich and Doug on Zoom from their eroding metrowest RE while gen Z and Millenials have their "Lord of the Flies" moment in the office? I don't know.

[mdovell]

Here's an idea.

How about we create a list of delivery services.

Groceries
Instacart
Panera Bread - it's started
Subway - its started
Peapod

Restaurant delivery
Ubur Eats
Postmates

Meal plans
Blue Apron

Etc