Coronavirus in Massachusetts (career, regulations, predictions)

[RBThescot]

Originally Posted by Steephill2

I’m thinking timeline might be something like this- Open for 1.5 months, then complete lockdown for 1.5 months so hospitals aren’t overwhelmed again, then rinse and repeat until vaccine comes out or next fall when everyone probably already got it from one of the earlier cycles. whichever comes earlier. there’s just too much pressure to open up. It’s like people have to see the numbers go up again and proof before they commit to another shutdown. I also think this will be done state by state, so some states may be in shut down mode while others aren’t over the course of next 18 months.

If it mutates then start 18 month cycle over again.

If you disagree with me I’d like to know what you think will really happen.

The thing about Russian Roulette or musical chairs is, eventually, someone loses. As long as it's you not me, open it up any way you want.

[brightdoglover]

From today's Boston Globe (a nursing home a mile from my former home in Middlesex County)

https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...nashoba-valley

[western mass and love it]

Originally Posted by Steephill2

I’m thinking timeline might be something like this- Open for 1.5 months, then complete lockdown for 1.5 months so hospitals aren’t overwhelmed again, then rinse and repeat until vaccine comes out or next fall when everyone probably already got it from one of the earlier cycles. whichever comes earlier. there’s just too much pressure to open up. It’s like people have to see the numbers go up again and proof before commit to another shutdown. I also think this will be done state by state, so some states may be in shut down mode while others aren’t over the course of next 18 months.

If it mutates then start 18 month cycle over again.

If you disagree with me I’d like to know what you think will really happen.

We can’t keep just shutting down places of business because of a virus. We are literally crippling the nation doing what we are doing right now. Record unemployment numbers with most of those jobs not coming back. We haven’t seen the worst of the collapse yet either. That will come later down the line when the millions with no jobs stop spending because they are broke.

So where do we draw the line? Maybe 500,000 dead from a virus or the total economic collapse of our country with 3-5 million unemployed and poverty rates through the roof. With all the crime , drug use , disease and all that comes with it. I don’t know the answer but what we are doing isn’t working.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by western mass and love it

So where do we draw the line? Maybe 500,000 dead from a virus or the total economic collapse of our country with 3-5 million unemployed and poverty rates through the roof. With all the crime , drug use , disease and all that comes with it. I don’t know the answer but what we are doing isn’t working.

The problem is that people either can't see or refuse to see what is coming. There was a story in the herald yesterday about how the unemployment trust fund will be depleted within weeks.

So all those people who are happy to insist on us all saying home because "we will just get unemployment" will soon find themselves without a check.

[justyouraveragetenant]

Originally Posted by western mass and love it

We can’t keep just shutting down places of business because of a virus. We are literally crippling the nation doing what we are doing right now. Record unemployment numbers with most of those jobs not coming back. We haven’t seen the worst of the collapse yet either. That will come later down the line when the millions with no jobs stop spending because they are broke.

So where do we draw the line? Maybe 500,000 dead from a virus or the total economic collapse of our country with 3-5 million unemployed and poverty rates through the roof. With all the crime , drug use , disease and all that comes with it. I don’t know the answer but what we are doing isn’t working.

Dr fauci is a fraud at first he said millions would die. then he said 200,000 and we are no where near that. Everything needs to open up. Dr fauci is full of it and all the models where wrong. Its going to be more then 3- 5 million unemployed a lot of those buisness closing are never coming back. I heard 17 million might be unemployed . More people will die from poverty. During the great depression lots of people commited suicide.

When a lot less people die then predicteded they will say see what we did worked. Its all bull.

In michigan if you go and visit another neighbor they can arrest you. thats so authoritarian its not even funny. the goverment should fear the people not the other way around.

They are using this virus to take our freedoms away.

[western mass and love it]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

The problem is that people either can't see or refuse to see what is coming. There was a story in the herald yesterday about how the unemployment trust fund will be depleted within weeks.

So all those people who are happy to insist on us all saying home because "we will just get unemployment" will soon find themselves without a check.

There’s no such thing as an unemployment trust fund. Corporations, small business, LLC’s basically anything that employs a certain amount of people pays into unemployment. There will be money, but it isn’t enough to cover a mortgage or rent, cover utilities and food , clothing and essential items. People will be forced to give up Cars, Cellphones, Internet and television. And all those industries will feel it and try to pass their burden down to the consumer.

As a nation this needs to end much sooner rather than much later.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by brightdoglover

From today's Boston Globe (a nursing home a mile from my former home in Middlesex County)

https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...nashoba-valley

You will notice there is zero information in there about age or race or preexisting conditions... almost if they just want to censor information to keep fear up?

[Steephill2]

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

Dr fauci is a fraud at first he said millions would die. then he said 200,000 and we are no where near that. Everything needs to open up. Dr fauci is full of it and all the models where wrong

I think some of the predictions were based on assumptions that if there were no social distancing policies in place, etc.

Obviously those estimates would be adjusted downward if these guidelines were in place.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by Steephill2

I think some of the predictions were based on assumptions that if there were no social distancing policies in place, etc.

I don't see how anyone can say social distancing is working.

1. Plenty of people still get the flu during holiday weekends etc. That is a time of social distancing with most people out of work and not shopping.

2. First it was social distancing then it was "lock down" still have 33k cases a day.

3. Then lock own wasn't enough and we are wearing masks and gloves, still 33K cases a day.

4. Soon we will be in full hazmats at home in lock down and people will still be screaming for more restrictions.

[Steephill2]

Originally Posted by RBThescot

The thing about Russian Roulette or musical chairs is, eventually, someone loses. As long as it's you not me, open it up any way you want.

Everyone has their ideas on what they think should happen, but I’d like to know what is most likely to happen. I really hope people can disprove my theory on what might happen over next 18 months but am discouraged no one has as of yet.

People keep saying we should open up in May. I’d like to know exactly what that plan is instead of just saying “people need to work”. We all know that but give us the plan.

Others say we should shut down til the end of the year. I’d like to hear from those people how we get back to normal other than comments stating “we don’t want the hospitals to be overwhelmed”. We all know that but where’s the plan in long run?