The Outdoors and Rural Maine (Bangor, Augusta: to live, air quality, vacation)

[CoastalMaine]

Originally Posted by Draconiator

Volvo line? Never heard that term before... can anyone tell me the history of it?

Here's a link with a thread on it... plenty of homework to edumacate yerself!


https://www.city-data.com/forum/maine...olvo-line.html

[truthseeker2012]

Originally Posted by RANGER.101ST

na he has a new job making licence pletes.

I wonder if O' J. will train him

[island mermaid]

Originally Posted by Draconiator

Volvo line? Never heard that term before... can anyone tell me the history of it?

It's an imaginary line that only a few of those living up north like to pretend it exists. However, if they would only realize it only brings out and exudes their acute awareness of social and economic differences. Those who are too class conscious!
Maine is ONE state. We are ALL Mainers.
DON'T GET ME GOING THIS MORNING ON THIS BS!

IMO- if you weren't born there and can't trace your roots back there at least 5 generations you shouldn't even be involved in the conversation to begin with. Imaginary or not. It's total ignorance.

There, now you've gone and done it!

[Maineah]

Proud to be a South Mainer.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by Fort Lauderdale mermaid

It's an imaginary line that only a few of those living up north like to pretend it exists. However, if they would only realize it only brings out and exudes their acute awareness of social and economic differences. Those who are too class conscious!
Maine is ONE state. We are ALL Mainers.
DON'T GET ME GOING THIS MORNING ON THIS BS!

IMO- if you weren't born there and can't trace your roots back there at least 5 generations you shouldn't even be involved in the conversation to begin with. Imaginary or not. It's total ignorance.

There, now you've gone and done it!

It would be more aptly named the ATV line. Everyone above it owns at least one ATV. Below it ?? They frown on ATV's.

[fxtrader]

I go back more than 5 generations so this is what I know about the situation. The two Maines exist wether its in peoples heads or not and this attitude seems to go back quite some time. I remember when I was a kid hearing the old timers talk about the two Maines. I also remember hearing my Grandfather say south of Augusta was Dixie. This is from a man that as far as I know never went south of Houlton. There are a lot of social economical issues that drive this issue that have been being discussed for as long as I can remember and with this economy they are only getting worse. Just go in to a local hang out for breakfeast up north somewhere and you will probably hear this discussion pop up sooner or later.

[tcrackly]

Originally Posted by Fort Lauderdale mermaid

It's an imaginary line that only a few of those living up north like to pretend it exists. However, if they would only realize it only brings out and exudes their acute awareness of social and economic differences. Those who are too class conscious!
Maine is ONE state. We are ALL Mainers.
DON'T GET ME GOING THIS MORNING ON THIS BS!

IMO- if you weren't born there and can't trace your roots back there at least 5 generations you shouldn't even be involved in the conversation to begin with. Imaginary or not. It's total ignorance.

There, now you've gone and done it!

Hear, hear.

[broadbill]

Originally Posted by Nor'Eastah

What's happening in Maine regarding the environmentalists is a microcosm of what has happened, and continues to happen, all over the country. These people have an agenda. They are trying to squash business and urban sprawl. Business needs land, transportation, commodities, capital, and an employee/customer base. Business needs freedom to grow. By hampering business interests, the environmentalists are hampering our nation's economy. The urban sprawl part is nothing but hubris and snobbery. They are saying, in effect, we know better than you do, how to manage this land, which is so 'precious'; go back to the city where you belong.

I think Maine's climate has protected it naturally from a lot of sprawl, although there has definitely been some. Radical environmentalism is largely a product of idle affluence. In that sense, this economic downturn may turn out to be a good thing.

And business isn't pushing their own agenda? Is allowing business to rule the roost is the inherently moral way of doing things? Will allowing business carte blanc make this country a better place?

As much as I don't want to live in a country govered by radical environmentalism, I really don't want to live in a country ruled by business either. There are many many examples of where unregulated business has caused great harm to this country (like the current mortgage/financial crisis for example).

[broadbill]

Originally Posted by pc-not

Now go to Walmart and look at the cross section of modern Americans. You'll most likely find several under the age of forty in the handicapped scooters. Then look what's in their basket. What's worse is how our collective minds have become soft. Can you say "government schools"?

I've believed for quite sometime that we, as a nation, are coming to our demise from within. The recent events on Wall St./ D.C. are confirmation of how quickly this is escalating.

Is Walmart really representative of modern America?

I also find it ironic that earlier somebody was railing about radical environmentalism squashing business growth and now you are talking about how Walmart (which is the epitome of "big business") has made our country "soft" and its causing our demise "from within". So which is it...is big business good for our country or isn't it?

I'm confused...

[Maineah]

It doesn't bother me that there is a perception of two Maines. Even the State recognizes there are two Maines. I can certainly sympathize with the frustrations of the more rural areas of the State when their government, bonds and other mandates are forced upon them by the populated southern part of the state. I'd resent the citified south too!
Southern Mainers were resentful of the North part of the State when the government in it's wisdom divided the state in two with the introduction of reformulated gas in the south and not in the north. They also built several emissions inspection stations in Southern Maine while exempting Northern Maine still again. Southern Maine voters told Augusta that if they were not going to include Northern Maine in the emission standards, Southern Maine wasn't going to play either! They tore down the inspection stations. If the state treats us as seperate the people need only observe. There are two Maines.