The Outdoors and Rural Maine (costs, vs, cars)

[fxtrader]

Originally Posted by RANGER.101ST

my wife has a volvo and she takes it up to our camp in the county all the time.but im a long ways from being what some may call a yuppie.im a hi-tec red neck.but i prefur hick.

Hey Ranger I am in the same boat.
I consider myself a redneck or whatever you want to call it. My wife has a Jaguar, and it goes back to the old joke Its fun to ride until your friends see you. Almost all of my friends and family are also rednecks and I am sure I know what they think when they see her car. It has always been her dream car and up until recently they have been owned by Ford, so I guess you could consider it a Ford in disguise. Ford is all I will personally own and drive.

[RANGER.101ST]

Originally Posted by tankratt

Company rig huh? standard cab or sleeper?

nope its an s40 its a nice car.im a kenworth man my self

Originally Posted by fxtrader

Hey Ranger I am in the same boat.
I consider myself a redneck or whatever you want to call it. My wife has a Jaguar, and it goes back to the old joke Its fun to ride until your friends see you. Almost all of my friends and family are also rednecks and I am sure I know what they think when they see her car. It has always been her dream car and up until recently they have been owned by Ford, so I guess you could consider it a Ford in disguise. Ford is all I will personally own and drive.

i dont care what people think its a nice car and the price was allmost the same as the high end modles that the big three puts out and the warenty was better.the car is just built better.but most people look at it and ssy you must have alot of money to buy some thing like that.so for the same price as a ford,gm,dodge i got a better built car.my ford truck was 10,000 more than the car and they dont look at me the same way when im driveing it.becouse it says FORD.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by RANGER.101ST

nope its an s40 its a nice car.im a kenworth man my self


i dont care what people think its a nice car and the price was allmost the same as the high end modles that the big three puts out and the warenty was better.the car is just built better.but most people look at it and ssy you must have alot of money to buy some thing like that.so for the same price as a ford,gm,dodge i got a better built car.my ford truck was 10,000 more than the car and they dont look at me the same way when im driveing it.becouse it says FORD.

We feel the same way about Saabs. We get the "you're a yuppie" thing but we have owned a Saab since we were married 25 years ago. Saabs put all of the accessories anyone could want in the base car. They don't sucker you in with a base model price then make you crazy trying to pick out options like a back seat and a steering wheel. Sure they have some options available but they include nice stereos, heated cloth seats, window de-foggers, turbo charged engines etc. etc. They will easily go 200,000 without any problem if properly maintained, have high resale values, low insurance costs, high trade in value, excellent rust proofing, excellent warrantees, and are a great value for the money. US made cars cannot touch them for value, performance and build quality. Even the plastic they use is better than anything Ford,GM or Chrysler uses.....and they're partially owned by GM....go figure!

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by broadbill

...and there is gotta be somebody driving a volvo above the line!

...there just might be...gasp....democrats above that line as well!

Watch yourself, that is near blasphemy

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Maineah

We feel the same way about Saabs. We get the "you're a yuppie" thing but we have owned a Saab since we were married 25 years ago. Saabs put all of the accessories anyone could want in the base car. They don't sucker you in with a base model price then make you crazy trying to pick out options like a back seat and a steering wheel. Sure they have some options available but they include nice stereos, heated cloth seats, window de-foggers, turbo charged engines etc. etc. They will easily go 200,000 without any problem if properly maintained, have high resale values, low insurance costs, high trade in value, excellent rust proofing, excellent warrantees, and are a great value for the money. US made cars cannot touch them for value, performance and build quality. Even the plastic they use is better than anything Ford,GM or Chrysler uses.....and they're partially owned by GM....go figure!

A saab is a nice car, with a lot of nice features.

But you fail to mention one thing.

When a 10 year old saab's heater stops working, they tell you that all of the controls and links for the car's heater are inside the ductwork. To diagnose the heater, they must pull the dashboard. They are not sure if they will be able to get the dashboard to fit tight ever again. and the shop fee to pull the ductwork to diagnose the heater, is equal to totalling the car.

Anything that they replace or fix, after that [like the heater] would be far beyond the value of the car.

So a perfectly functioning 10-year old saab is totaled when the heater dies.

Does anyone want to guess how I know this?

I have been to the saab dealership, and to the best local mechanic's shop. The local mechanic refuses to touch it. He knows for sure that he can not get the dash board to fit ever again, once he pulls it.

The dealership thinks they might be able to get it to fit again, mostly, but not without squeaks and shakes.

Either way neither of them will diagnose the heater.

But hey it is neat, I can tell you exactly how far you can drive before your breath begins freezing on the interior of the windows.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by forest beekeeper

A saab is a nice car, with a lot of nice features.

But you fail to mention one thing.

When a 10 year old saab's heater stops working, they tell you that all of the controls and links for the car's heater are inside the ductwork. To diagnose the heater, they must pull the dashboard. They are not sure if they will be able to get the dashboard to fit tight ever again. and the shop fee to pull the ductwork to diagnose the heater, is equal to totalling the car.

Anything that they replace or fix, after that [like the heater] would be far beyond the value of the car.

So a perfectly functioning 10-year old saab is totaled when the heater dies.

Does anyone want to guess how I know this?

I have been to the saab dealership, and to the best local mechanic's shop. The local mechanic refuses to touch it. He knows for sure that he can not get the dash board to fit ever again, once he pulls it.

The dealership thinks they might be able to get it to fit again, mostly, but not without squeaks and shakes.

Either way neither of them will diagnose the heater.

But hey it is neat, I can tell you exactly how far you can drive before your breath begins freezing on the interior of the windows.

Never had anything like that happen to us! Get rid of it! A 10 Y/O anything is just about at the end of it's serviceable life anyway! Either that or drive it in the summer.

[CoastalMaine]

Originally Posted by forest beekeeper

A saab is a nice car, with a lot of nice features.

But you fail to mention one thing.

When a 10 year old saab's heater stops working, they tell you that all of the controls and links for the car's heater are inside the ductwork. To diagnose the heater, they must pull the dashboard. They are not sure if they will be able to get the dashboard to fit tight ever again. and the shop fee to pull the ductwork to diagnose the heater, is equal to totalling the car.

Anything that they replace or fix, after that [like the heater] would be far beyond the value of the car.

So a perfectly functioning 10-year old saab is totaled when the heater dies.

Does anyone want to guess how I know this?

I have been to the saab dealership, and to the best local mechanic's shop. The local mechanic refuses to touch it. He knows for sure that he can not get the dash board to fit ever again, once he pulls it.

The dealership thinks they might be able to get it to fit again, mostly, but not without squeaks and shakes.

Either way neither of them will diagnose the heater.

But hey it is neat, I can tell you exactly how far you can drive before your breath begins freezing on the interior of the windows.

HA! Well, that explains your post on the other thread about no heater in car since fall 07. Yet another reason why I buy American made vehicles.
My van is going strong at 200k with little by way of issues save regular maintenance. I gave it to my friend 2 years ago at 140k in trade for carpentry work as I'd inherited my dads truck. It's a Chrysler Town and Country and is hauling 2 adults, 3 kids and a dog all over the Cape.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by CoastalMaine

HA! Well, that explains your post on the other thread about no heater in car since fall 07. Yet another reason why I buy American made vehicles.
My van is going strong at 200k with little by way of issues save regular maintenance. I gave it to my friend 2 years ago at 140k in trade for carpentry work as I'd inherited my dads truck. It's a Chrysler Town and Country and is hauling 2 adults, 3 kids and a dog all over the Cape.

You may not be able to buy American vehicles much longer!!!

[CoastalMaine]

Originally Posted by Maineah

You may not be able to buy American vehicles much longer!!!

It's okay... I keep them at least 10 years usually anyway. This one is an 04 and only has 54k on it and that's because I've done 8 trips between Fla and the Cape in that time frame. I don't go to work everyday like most folks, so it's used little.

[Maineah]

Originally Posted by CoastalMaine

It's okay... I keep them at least 10 years usually anyway. This one is an 04 and only has 54k on it and that's because I've done 8 trips between Fla and the Cape in that time frame. I don't go to work everyday like most folks, so it's used little.

Me either but that may change!