The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (high income, medical, businesses)

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

Would anyone honestly have a problem with recruiting all homeless into some sort of reserve military unit? Something like the "Bums Brigade"?

You wouldn't send them into combat immediately obviously (we aren't cruel), but after some training, free meals, housing, we could deploy them into peace keeping operations where U.S forces have a troop shortage.

It sure doesn't sound like you've spent much time around the homeless or you wouldn't suggest something like that. Here's the homeless report for LA for 2017, start at page 24 and look at the demographics of the homeless and then tell me how many of them you think would work out well in the US military.
http://www.vchcorp.org/wp-content/up...nt-Results.pdf

[Chicano3000X]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

It sure doesn't sound like you've spent much time around the homeless or you wouldn't suggest something like that. Here's the homeless report for LA for 2017, start at page 24 and look at the demographics of the homeless and then tell me how many of them you think would work out well in the US military.
http://www.vchcorp.org/wp-content/up...nt-Results.pdf

When I was 12, I use to wonder if the Marines or Army should have a Midget battalion. So small the enemy can't see them and they can fit into small spaces etc.

Then again I was 12..

[TCROX]

The weather conditions tonight and tomorrow are going to very dangerous to humans- a kind, compassionate governor would DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY and round them all up and give them a nice, dry, warm place to stay on a current or decommissioned military base. MANDATORY evacuations of all uninhabitable areas like washes, parks, streets, vacant buildings etc etc...
I think the National Guard needs to be called in to help-- to help impose and enforce a curfew until we get some solid legislation to fix this of course...
YES! Draft and deploy those that are able- NOW! There are lots of jobs they can do , overseas for a while so maybe they will learn the respect for this country that they were not taught in their formative years! If they are not able to serve, then they are probably a harm to themselves or others and need a nice facility with 24/7- 365 oversight.

[jm1982]

Pretty good article here . Good read for out of towners to get an idea of what we are talking about with the la homeless in 2018 .

“There’s sympathy and a desire to help, but there’s also a sense of being invaded and perhaps even endangered — in terms of both physical safety and public health”

“There’s an unavoidable, often unspoken, fear that the city around us may be in a state of irreversible decline, and a suspicion on the part of some that the rights of homeless people have trumped the rights of everyone else.”

“Day in and day out, Metro riders step into trains with homeless people on them — often visibly disturbed or threatening, prompting nervous passengers to edge away or change cars. In downtown L.A., shop owners worry that customers will opt for suburban malls to avoid the panhandlers and glassy-eyed wanderers. In Venice, besieged businesses have banded together to share the cost of security guards and cleanup crews to clear garbage, bedding or worse from the sidewalks.”

How can a place with 58,000 homeless people continue to function?

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Pretty good article here . Good read for out of towners to get an idea of what we are talking about with the la homeless in 2018 .

“There’s sympathy and a desire to help, but there’s also a sense of being invaded and perhaps even endangered — in terms of both physical safety and public health”

“There’s an unavoidable, often unspoken, fear that the city around us may be in a state of irreversible decline, and a suspicion on the part of some that the rights of homeless people have trumped the rights of everyone else.”

“Day in and day out, Metro riders step into trains with homeless people on them — often visibly disturbed or threatening, prompting nervous passengers to edge away or change cars. In downtown L.A., shop owners worry that customers will opt for suburban malls to avoid the panhandlers and glassy-eyed wanderers. In Venice, besieged businesses have banded together to share the cost of security guards and cleanup crews to clear garbage, bedding or worse from the sidewalks.”

How can a place with 58,000 homeless people continue to function?

Excellent article, too bad you cherry picked the comments in it

"The real, durable solution is to get homeless people into housing, which means building many more apartments (the point of Proposition HHH) as well as providing the outreach workers and services needed to move people off the streets and keep them off the streets (the point of Measure H). It will take years to get those housing units built, however. Realizing they can’t leave thousands of people in tents on the sidewalks in the meantime, city officials have kicked around a number of promising ways to house homeless people on a temporary basis; for example, there’s a proposal to fast-track the conversion of motels into short-term rentals and a plan to put housing trailers on a city-owned lot."

"Some compromises have already been laid out. What’s often been missing, though, is the political courage necessary to implement them. For example, the L.A. City Council adopted an ordinance two years ago that requires homeless people to abandon their carts and put most of their possessions in storage once the government has made a storage facility available nearby. The city, however, has been able to open only two such facilities, and only one — on skid row — has available storage space. Community opposition has killed or hamstrung projects in San Pedro and Venice."

"Respecting the rights of homeless people doesn’t mean consigning the sidewalks and parks permanently to tents and shopping carts, just as respecting the rights of property owners doesn’t mean rousting the unsheltered and shuffling them from one neighborhood to the next. Instead, what is needed are reasonable compromises that protect the health, safety and basic needs of homeless people while ensuring the community’s ability to function day in and day out. That, in turn, requires residents and businesses not just to accept the presence of homeless people, but to have a stake in getting them off the streets and into housing. (They should start by remembering that only a minority — though a visible one — of homeless people are mentally ill or drug addicted; many are simply down on their luck and pose no threat to others.)"
^ All of the above are from your link

[jm1982]

Ok and ?

You wanted me to copy and paste the whole article ?..

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by rodentraiser

Here are the faces of homelessness. These are the people you don't want to help.

When you click on the first story(from 8 years ago) it mentions the couple has four children, very young children.

You see kids cost money, which is why smart people know when to stop and not have more kids than you can afford.

I have empathy for people who fall on hard times, but when you hear four kids or more....come on. Don't keep having kids when you're barely getting by, instead save up that money.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

When you click on the second story(from 8 years ago) it mentions the couple has four children, and two of they're not older children.

You see kids cost money, which is why smart people know when to stop and not have more kids than you can afford.

I have empathy for people who fall on hard times, but when you hear four kids or more....come on.

Yeah I feel bad for the kids the parents don’t need to be math geniuses to figure out they can’t support themselves and 4 kids ... if they can barely support themselves .

There seems to be no stigma these days too of people having a bunch of kids out of wedlock with different fathers .
Of course the tax payers are supposed to pick up the tab for it all .

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

It sure doesn't sound like you've spent much time around the homeless or you wouldn't suggest something like that. Here's the homeless report for LA for 2017, start at page 24 and look at the demographics of the homeless and then tell me how many of them you think would work out well in the US military.
http://www.vchcorp.org/wp-content/up...nt-Results.pdf

Of course you wouldn't push them into combat immediately, duh. Let's be serious here for a second.

Like put them through a 10 week basic course which trains them in the usage of small arms, improvised explosives, and anti-armor tactics.

Feed them, cloth them, and give them medical care but in exchange you get trained combat troops.

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Yeah I feel bad for the kids the parents don’t need to be math geniuses to figure out they can’t support themselves and 4 kids ... if they can barely support themselves .

There seems to be no stigma these days too of people having a bunch of kids out of wedlock with different fathers .
Of course the tax payers are supposed to pick up the tab for it all .

It's very sad for the children because they didn't ask to be born into this.

The couple in the first video are married, but the dumb husband complains about how crowded it is. Gee you think so?

They had no business having four kids, she looks to be a CNA, that's a low paying job, doesn't say what he does.

Even couples with better paying professional jobs know having more than a couple of kids is costly.

Don't even get me going on the "single moms"....LOL. One of my favorites was a video when the EBT system crashed in St. Louis, one woman was screaming "I got 6 kids". No reason today other than to be a freeloader to have so many kids you can't afford.