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Old 05-30-2018, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Face it cops in LA and OC have given up. The pendulum has shifted to the why bother side so they don't. My step bro was attacked by a homeless guy at his shop. He was so injured he spent 2 days in hospital. When the cops arrived he pointed where the guy went and described him to the cops. Not one of them even bothered to look for the guy. The homeless have won ... they rule this town.
That’s terrible that happened to him . Also think of how many people just don’t report homeless crime because they know it’s unlikely anything will be done ?
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Old 05-31-2018, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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That’s terrible that happened to him . Also think of how many people just don’t report homeless crime because they know it’s unlikely anything will be done ?
Exactly... in Orange if your car gets broken into or property is stolen from your house ,like a bike for instance ,when you call the cops they just say come to the station and fill out a report. Now if your filing a ins claim you would probably do that. If not why bother??? If by some miracle they catch the thief if it's under 900,00 that was stolen what happens?? Absolutely nothing.

I can't imagine how bad it's going to be here in 10 years.
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Old 05-31-2018, 03:20 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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I was responding to this post:

Do you not think vagrants who commit crimes should be arrested?
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Old 05-31-2018, 03:31 AM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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What in the world are you even talking about? Portland found a way to make public toilets that don't turn into places to sleep, bathe, or have sex in...
Something wrong with any US city having to make public toilets that way in the 21st Century. 'Murica we have a problem.
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Old 05-31-2018, 06:20 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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I'm not sure why they didn't use the same outdoor restrooms that Portland has:
  • No running water inside: "Some people, if they’re homeless, use a sink to wash their laundry," says DiBenedetto. So there’s no sink, just a spigot on the outside that pours cold water.
  • No mirror: People tend to smash mirrors. Perhaps even more frequently if there’s no running water within reach.
  • Bars at the top and bottom of the structure: It may make the water closet look like a cage for a gorilla, but these apertures have critical importance. Cops can peep in near the ground to make sure there’s no more than one set of feet inside. The openings also help sound flow freely, letting pedestrians hear the grunts and splashes of the person inside and the person inside hear the footsteps and conversation of pedestrians. Nobody wants to stick around such a toilet for long.
  • A graffiti-proof coating: No one will be tagging this latrine.
  • Walls and doors made from heavy-gauge stainless steel: “It’s built with the idea that somebody could take a bat to it,” DiBenedetto says. “And if they did damage it, we could replace that part.”
https://www.citylab.com/design/2012/...s-failed/1020/
It's good to see someone coming up with solutions instead of making jokes at the expense of the homeless population.
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Old 05-31-2018, 06:23 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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You would be surprised how many people will just LEAVE if they feel there will be trouble if they stay. You can ENFORCE NICELY.

Human beings who are not committing crimes do not deserve to be locked up just because you don't like looking at their poorness.
True.
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Old 05-31-2018, 06:24 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Those of you complaining about LA need to realize that just about every major Western US metro is having a homeless crisis just like LA is. I can't even begin to explain how bad it is here in Denver.

This is a consequence of rapid growth.
Worth repeating.
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Old 05-31-2018, 06:32 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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In the eastern stretches of the San Fernando Valley, an empty lot sits alongside Sun Valley High School, strewn with discarded bits of Styrofoam and paper.

A nonprofit group had envisioned a new building rising on the Sheldon Street site, one that could house 25 homeless people. Los Angeles voters had approved a $1.2-billion bond, Proposition HHH, to help fund the construction of thousands of units of homeless housing across the city.

But to have a shot at that money, the housing developer needed to get a key document — a letter from a local lawmaker.

And she turned it down.

Here's how easy it is to block a homeless housing project in L.A.
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Old 05-31-2018, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Face it cops in LA and OC have given up. The pendulum has shifted to the why bother side so they don't. My step bro was attacked by a homeless guy at his shop. He was so injured he spent 2 days in hospital. When the cops arrived he pointed where the guy went and described him to the cops. Not one of them even bothered to look for the guy. The homeless have won ... they rule this town.
If your step brother was taken to the hospital how does he know whether or not the cops looked for the suspect, and how can he be so sure that the guy is homeless and not just crazy?
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Old 05-31-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Something wrong with any US city having to make public toilets that way in the 21st Century. 'Murica we have a problem.
well surprise surprise..yes we have a problem and if this continues unabated in another decade a fair number of families in this country will be homeless, but don't worry they won't crap on your sidewalks or smell awful, they will be very careful not to be seen because they don't want their kids taken from them for the crime of being homeless, it's already happening and I seen no indication that it will be fixed any time soon. These are mostly working people who have been reduced to living in a car, van or RV. Once they lose that they usually have nowhere to go except to one of the few family shelters available.

You can search this map and see how many homeless school children are enrolled in any California school. Keep in mind that the list only reflects students whose parents declared the children as being homeless, in my experience most parents will not disclose to the school that they are homeless because they are afraid it might lead to them losing their children.

https://edsource.org/2017/california...tudents/588165
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