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Old 03-02-2018, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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I’ll never forget the lady in L.A on tv protesting for $15 hr min wage .

She said if she got $15 hr she would be able to support her 5 kids .. hopefully the kids don’t grow up to be as dumb as her .
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:04 PM
 
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Not all people in the military are combat soldiers. There’s cooks, MP’s, office workers, medical workers. Teach a person to fish don’t just give them fish... just sayin
Exactly. The Bum Brigade could be responsible for cooking food, laying down mines, or guarding prisoners.

There are a lot of options. People are not being open minded and progressive here.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Exactly. The Bum Brigade could be responsible for cooking food, laying down mines, or guarding prisoners.

There are a lot of options. People are not being open minded and progressive here.
That’s why many call them regressives now instead of progressives .
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:55 PM
 
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So as I was mentioning on the DIY Retirement thread. Los Angeles will be the first city to get hit the hardest in the event that Social Security is no longer provided. If you think it's bad now just wait. The entire city will be unlivable or they will just have to re-open a few shuttered penitentiaries and maybe unemployment will drop because they'll need correctional officers.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:58 PM
 
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LOL, way ahead of you sweetie.

These two weren't corporate lawyers with six figure incomes and they both got laid off. Who after both being out of work for 3 years exhausted all their savings. These were people scraping by who had too many kids and absolutely no safety net due to a lack of planning.

Here's how it works, you don't keep having kids when you have lower paying jobs or no jobs.

The wife is a CNA, they were in FL, you're looking about $12 an hour even in 2018, this was 8 years ago.

They didn't have a pot to p**s in because they had too many children.

Yes, you stop at one or two when you can't afford to have more.

Not that hard of a concept.

I feel badly for the children, because IMO putting children into positions like this a form of abuse and neglect
My parents stopped at 1. It's about standard of living. Some people don't mind living in squalor and filth. And they don't care about their kids standard of living. They say they love all their children equally. Yes I'm sure they do. Every time you pop out a new one, you love them all just a little bit less. There's only so much "love" to go around.
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Old 03-02-2018, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Good example here .

“Joshua Tree couple accused of raising 3 children in wooden box expected to be in court today”

https://www.dailynews.com/2018/03/02...n-court-today/
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Old 03-02-2018, 06:33 PM
 
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I'm not your sweetie, please try to remember that in future posts.
You're right about that.

Only thing you were right about as once again you avoided the valid points.

You don't have children you can't afford, the couple with four children were low wage earnings just scraping by, no safety net due to having too many children.
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Old 03-02-2018, 06:40 PM
 
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I’ll never forget the lady in L.A on tv protesting for $15 hr min wage .

She said if she got $15 hr she would be able to support her 5 kids .. hopefully the kids don’t grow up to be as dumb as her .
LOL.....right?

What they don't realize is they will get $15 an hour, but there will be two human beings and the rest will be automated.

You already see it in stores like Target, my local Target rarely has more than one or two cashiers and they're pushing you to use the self check out, I said to one young woman this is how people automate themselves out of jobs, she just laughed....oh well.

I rarely eat fast food but the last time I went into a McDonalds this young guy was pushing people to order at a kiosk, they're going "kiosk" themselves right out of a job, they can't seem to connect the dots.

There is a chain called Tesco in Ireland and the UK, they're pretty much automated, maybe one cashier in the larger cities.

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My parents stopped at 1. It's about standard of living. Some people don't mind living in squalor and filth. And they don't care about their kids standard of living. They say they love all their children equally. Yes I'm sure they do. Every time you pop out a new one, you love them all just a little bit less. There's only so much "love" to go around.
You got that right.

Your parents were smart, mine stopped at two and this was in the 60s.

One poster thinks this has to do with being smug, not at all, it's called common sense and not putting children into a life of poverty. They can't seem to admit that part of life is about choices, while we can't control everything that happens to us, you can certainly control about how many kids you have.
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Old 03-02-2018, 07:25 PM
 
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One poster thinks this has to do with being smug, not at all, it's called common sense and not putting children into a life of poverty. They can't seem to admit that part of life is about choices, while we can't control everything that happens to us, you can certainly control about how many kids you have.
I'm pretty sure that was directed at me, no need to be subtle, say it loud and say it proud. Of course I believe in personal responsibility. I had two kids both pregnancies were planned and that was the end of it. But I don't see anything to be gained from harping on about how many children people have when the truth is, you have no idea of the circumstances.

My oldest son has one child, but the woman he was married to already had 3 kids when he met her (he's no longer married and is raising his son by himself) but it would have been so easy to see him with her kids who he treated as his own and struggled to support and label him as being irresponsible.

A friend of mine had two of her own and adopted three foster kids, she and her husband did great until he lost his job during the recession, they really struggled for three or four years after that but eventually came out of it ok, but I guess if you had seen them in 2010 when they were having a tough time you would have called them irresponsible too?

Life is complex, I try not to judge people by counting the number of kids they have but rather by how they care for them and love them.
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Old 03-02-2018, 07:28 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure that was directed at me, no need to be subtle, say it loud and say it proud. Of course I believe in personal responsibility. I had two kids both pregnancies were planned and that was the end of it. But I don't see anything to be gained from harping on about how many children people have when the truth is, you have no idea of the circumstances.

My oldest son has one child, but the woman he was married to already had 3 kids when he met her (he's no longer married and is raising his son by himself) but it would have been so easy to see him with her kids who he treated as his own and struggled to support and label him as being irresponsible.

A friend of mine had two of her own and adopted three foster kids, she and her husband did great until he lost his job during the recession, they really struggled for three or four years after that but eventually came out of it ok, but I guess if you had seen them in 2010 when they were having a tough time you would have called them irresponsible too?

Life is complex, I try not to judge people by counting the number of kids they have but rather by how they care for them and love them.
The "nothing can ever happen me and I make no mistakes" crowd...
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