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Old 09-25-2008, 01:12 AM
 
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For the 89131, read my thread entitled "Before you Move to Vegas" and just keep in mind - DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Some parts of 89131 are really good - others aren't. In one area they built homes around privately owned land. That privately owned land now is developing - a shooting range - across the street from a high school and the people in their homes have to listen to guns going off all day and on some were worried about stray bullets in their back yards. It's just important when you find a house you like, research the area really good - right down to the sex offender search on LV Metro web site. If you have something you cannot stand or don't want to live next to, call the business license bureau and make certain there's nothing in your area licensed to run a business out of their house. Also, you can call Neighborhood Services, give them an address or an approximate area you are interested in moving to and inquire about how many complaints or problems they have had in that area.
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Old 09-25-2008, 08:11 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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For the 89131, read my thread entitled "Before you Move to Vegas" and just keep in mind - DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Some parts of 89131 are really good - others aren't. In one area they built homes around privately owned land. That privately owned land now is developing - a shooting range - across the street from a high school and the people in their homes have to listen to guns going off all day and on some were worried about stray bullets in their back yards. It's just important when you find a house you like, research the area really good - right down to the sex offender search on LV Metro web site. If you have something you cannot stand or don't want to live next to, call the business license bureau and make certain there's nothing in your area licensed to run a business out of their house. Also, you can call Neighborhood Services, give them an address or an approximate area you are interested in moving to and inquire about how many complaints or problems they have had in that area.
Ah comeon. The shooting range is a massive public facility being built at least a mile from the nearest home. It is not even in 89131. It is separated from the nearest homes and Shadow Ridge High School by a mile of what will be park and an eventual freeway. It has been coming for at least ten years and has been the subject of massive public information drives. You are correct that some of the nearest dwellings are not happy about it but it was not because it came as a big surprise.

The only tracts I know of impacted by a firing range are the ones in Log Cabin near the Tule Springs Range. I presume they will get better when the Clark County Range opens.

If you want to denigrate 89131 at least get your facts straight.
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:35 AM
 
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Not that I am saying a shooting range is an awesome next door neighbor, but I would rather those with guns practice their skills there than on public corners and such. And those with guns will most likely practice somewhere.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:39 AM
 
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When I said to someone at the public meeting concerning the wash that the range was there first and people shouldn't have bought there if they were afraid of a little noise (which won't even be a problem btw), I was told that the builder and the city of NLV purposely kept it from those buyers. The thing I'm worried about up there is the Sheep Mountain Parkway wiping out the Upper Las Vegas Wash Ice Age Park.

I have to take back what I said about selling a house in 89131. I was in the SE corner of 89130, not 131. The only thing wrong with 89131, and much of that far N - NW part of town, is that they should be preserving most of it not destroying it with homes, golf courses, and pavement.
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Old 09-25-2008, 01:04 PM
 
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For the 89131, read my thread entitled "Before you Move to Vegas" and just keep in mind - DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Some parts of 89131 are really good - others aren't. In one area they built homes around privately owned land. That privately owned land now is developing - a shooting range - across the street from a high school and the people in their homes have to listen to guns going off all day and on some were worried about stray bullets in their back yards. It's just important when you find a house you like, research the area really good - right down to the sex offender search on LV Metro web site. If you have something you cannot stand or don't want to live next to, call the business license bureau and make certain there's nothing in your area licensed to run a business out of their house. Also, you can call Neighborhood Services, give them an address or an approximate area you are interested in moving to and inquire about how many complaints or problems they have had in that area.
I live in 89131, there are no issues that make it different from any other zip.
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:29 AM
 
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Whatever the zip is...my error...it is still NW part of town. For folks that want kind of thing. Ok...buy a house near it and call it a redneck country club, which I stated on my post. In the NW part of town, there's more than gun shops and firing ranges - rodeos, ostrich farm, fruit picking once a year at Gilcreast, future building around the area since there's still a lot of available desert going on.

With that last point - The folks that are complaining about shooting ranges - they bought homes with desert around them; had no clue about the firing range going in in 5-10 years. They weren't told. Instead of starting a class action suit after the fact, I am more inclined to tell folks - DESERT PATCH NEXT DOOR? Call some official somewhere and figure out their intentions before you buy your property. That blank piece of land could very well have approval for something like the shooting range.

Am I anti-shooting range too? No...it's controlled and I don't fear any "stray bullets". However, like I stated before on my own thread - I want to watch the sun set on my back porch with wine without gun shots in the background....similar to planes flying overhead for homes near McCarran International....Do I care there is a range across the street from a high school? No, but the parents were quite miffed. My deal here - the guns are owned, bought, in a controlled place, let 'em shoot. So it's noisy and I wouldn't buy a house there. It's not violent or with potential dangers as far as my SUPERFICIAL research has gone thus far.

You all say - THE RANGE WAS THERE BEFORE THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE. It was...why I posted my deal - DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU BUY. As a taxpayer, I don't wish to finance too many more class action suits because of uninformed buyers.

The person that did the mileage and all...I don't own guns, I don't shoot, I don't and wouldn't buy a house next to a firing range so the exact schematics I don't know what they are. I only went off news with paranoid homeowners that learned of shooting after-the-fact. Personally, if it were me and I saw my house next to a huge chunk of desert, I wouldn't have bought with or without research because I would have envisioned Wal-Mart and a shopping center looking over my back fence. The size/amount of property for the firing range was sizeable. Big enough where anyone could assume anything - Walmart, guns, schools, parks, traffic....With or without research or assumptions, I wouldn't have bought. Folks just moving in might not know that.

Who moving to Vegas in the NW part of town would think of fruit picking, ostriches, pigs, the main roadway from Nellis AFB to Yucca Mtn for nuclear waste, rodeos, etc. Any zip code, any area, any state or city = Do your research!! Figure it out! No research? Then don't buy next to a huge chunk of desert if you don't want to live by guns, schools, Walmart, malls, etc. Look in an established area!
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:35 AM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Whatever the zip is...my error...it is still NW part of town. For folks that want kind of thing. Ok...buy a house near it and call it a redneck country club, which I stated on my post. In the NW part of town, there's more than gun shops and firing ranges - rodeos, ostrich farm, fruit picking once a year at Gilcreast, future building around the area since there's still a lot of available desert going on.

With that last point - The folks that are complaining about shooting ranges - they bought homes with desert around them; had no clue about the firing range going in in 5-10 years. They weren't told. Instead of starting a class action suit after the fact, I am more inclined to tell folks - DESERT PATCH NEXT DOOR? Call some official somewhere and figure out their intentions before you buy your property. That blank piece of land could very well have approval for something like the shooting range.
It is a mile away. It is in another section. It is not "next door". There is a mile of park and freeway between them and the range. It will get less noise from the range than from Nellis flights. It is so far away that it is doubtful any of the RE disclosure laws apply.

To check out the neighborhood is normal caution...to check out the whole area is overdoing it and is not practically doable.

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Am I anti-shooting range too? No...it's controlled and I don't fear any "stray bullets". However, like I stated before on my own thread - I want to watch the sun set on my back porch with wine without gun shots in the background....similar to planes flying overhead for homes near McCarran International....Do I care there is a range across the street from a high school? No, but the parents were quite miffed. My deal here - the guns are owned, bought, in a controlled place, let 'em shoot. So it's noisy and I wouldn't buy a house there. It's not violent or with potential dangers as far as my SUPERFICIAL research has gone thus far.
It is also nonexistent. There is no shooting range across from the high school. It is a mile away.

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You all say - THE RANGE WAS THERE BEFORE THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE. It was...why I posted my deal - DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU BUY. As a taxpayer, I don't wish to finance too many more class action suits because of uninformed buyers.
No it was not. It has been planned a long time but is still just under construction. Opens next year.

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The person that did the mileage and all...I don't own guns, I don't shoot, I don't and wouldn't buy a house next to a firing range so the exact schematics I don't know what they are. I only went off news with paranoid homeowners that learned of shooting after-the-fact. Personally, if it were me and I saw my house next to a huge chunk of desert, I wouldn't have bought with or without research because I would have envisioned Wal-Mart and a shopping center looking over my back fence. The size/amount of property for the firing range was sizeable. Big enough where anyone could assume anything - Walmart, guns, schools, parks, traffic....With or without research or assumptions, I wouldn't have bought. Folks just moving in might not know that.
It is not over anyone's fence. It is in fact a large area but miniscule in comparison to its surround. It is the edge of a thousand square miles of desert and mountains. It is no where near anybody's home.

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Who moving to Vegas in the NW part of town would think of fruit picking, ostriches, pigs, the main roadway from Nellis AFB to Yucca Mtn for nuclear waste, rodeos, etc. Any zip code, any area, any state or city = Do your research!! Figure it out! No research? Then don't buy next to a huge chunk of desert if you don't want to live by guns, schools, Walmart, malls, etc. Look in an established area!
YOur message is sensible. Your examples are absurd. Gunsmiths and the Gilcrease orchid may well be very fine neighbors. Living against the park separating the shooting range may be an exceptional place to live.

Worry about buying next to a walmart or a casino or a freeway. Those have all happened to people in Las Vegas in recent years. And note that even good zoning does not always protect. See CVS pharmacy and jailed Commissioners. By all means look carefully. If you really want to be safe don't buy next to a vacant lot.
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:36 PM
 
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I live in 89129 and love it.....We sold a nice house in 89131 and got out while the getting was good.
I agree with this statement. If you look at the areas - especially the new ones - you find foreclosure after foreclosure. That depreciates the value of your home and with the economy what it is, how long will they stay empty? What kind of future options will be available to people that cannot affod to buy homes so you live around Section 8 people? Summerlin - 89129 has appreciated in value since it began construction.

In the 89131 area, you need to do your homework - it's an old area, before laws existed or anybody cared. Out there, you have many "grandfathered" companies functioning and working. Do you want to live next to that?? Do your research on companies in the zip code.

I also know police officers that live in 89131 and 89130 area codes and they have complained for years about the expansion of gangs in 89131 area code. Fact or fiction? I didn't get into gang altercations myself, but when I speak to men who have been on the force over 20 years, I listen. One question came to my mind regarding gangs - If they are expanding, which they will, no problem, is the police department expanding as well?

Another question I had - the closest fire department was Lone Mountain Road - with all the new developments in 89143, 89131, 89130 - Like the police department, is the fire department also expanding out that way so if something happens my house isn't gone?

You see, the population exploded overnight and continued for a decade. However, schools, police, fire departments, etc. are all questionable or not growing at the rate of population expansion. I felt that 89131 falls into this category. Has a lot of catching up to do. Summerlin has expanded police, fire, schools, churches according to population growth so when they called 89129 a "well-planned community" they really meant it. For this reason, their properties have appreciated versus 89131 and 89130 that have depreciated somewhat.
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:39 PM
 
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The gun range - on the news - since you don't watch the news - they were standing in front of the shooting range entry with the high school in the background. Review channel 3 threads. The gun range is across the street from a high school. Paranoid parents? They are concerned and have that right to be. Actual distance? Well...since you lied about the high school across the street...I will side with the paranoid and worried parents.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:31 PM
 
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I agree with this statement. If you look at the areas - especially the new ones - you find foreclosure after foreclosure. That depreciates the value of your home and with the economy what it is, how long will they stay empty? What kind of future options will be available to people that cannot affod to buy homes so you live around Section 8 people? Summerlin - 89129 has appreciated in value since it began construction.

In the 89131 area, you need to do your homework - it's an old area, before laws existed or anybody cared. Out there, you have many "grandfathered" companies functioning and working. Do you want to live next to that?? Do your research on companies in the zip code.

I also know police officers that live in 89131 and 89130 area codes and they have complained for years about the expansion of gangs in 89131 area code. Fact or fiction? I didn't get into gang altercations myself, but when I speak to men who have been on the force over 20 years, I listen. One question came to my mind regarding gangs - If they are expanding, which they will, no problem, is the police department expanding as well?

Another question I had - the closest fire department was Lone Mountain Road - with all the new developments in 89143, 89131, 89130 - Like the police department, is the fire department also expanding out that way so if something happens my house isn't gone?

You see, the population exploded overnight and continued for a decade. However, schools, police, fire departments, etc. are all questionable or not growing at the rate of population expansion. I felt that 89131 falls into this category. Has a lot of catching up to do. Summerlin has expanded police, fire, schools, churches according to population growth so when they called 89129 a "well-planned community" they really meant it. For this reason, their properties have appreciated versus 89131 and 89130 that have depreciated somewhat.
Once again, you don't know what you're talking about. Station 41 is right on Buffalo in front of Centennial Hills Park. It also serves as a police substation.

89131 old??? Hardly, it is one of the newer areas. The reason for the high amount of foreclosures is that people bought these homes for no/little money down and got killed when the rates went up. Again, it is all over the valley but more concentrated in areas like 89131 with tons of new houses. My community is brand new and most of the communites around here weren't around 5 years ago. Centennial Hills Park just opened phase 3, the YMCA opened last year and the library opens next year.

All the schools in the area are fairly new as well so once again folks, we have someone who hasn't done any research. Gangs???? That's laughable, LMAO.
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