[jlawrence01]

Originally Posted by WestieJeff

I agree with what you're saying, but the "Resort Fee" issue isn't limited to Las Vegas. Almost every resort type hotel (and many that aren't) in any reasonably popular destination is tacking this type of fee on nowadays.

It affects relatively few destinations Florida, Las Vegas and the like. It not a trend that has hit Reno for the most part.

[von949]

Originally Posted by Spraynard Kruger

Vegas hasn't lost it's appeal, but it has lost its value propisition over the years as it has gone more metropolitan and upscale.

Just about everyone I know who has witnessed this evolution tells me how they enjoyed Vegas more prior to corporate rule. Now, the casinos spend more money on consultants when it's really quite simple...they need to treat the customer with a personal touch.

The move towards knowing every red cent a customer spends is beyond stupid. Want a discount buffet? Sign up for our card, so we can monitor you and your spending. Total Customer Awareness. And you know what? It's BS! A big gold casino on the south side of town is using their electronic billboard to get customers excited about the cheap, Chinese import crap they can win in giveaways. A waffle iron, a toaster, a sit and spin. Who is running the show? Who?

People travel to create memories. Too many people are coming here and feeling the gouge, the corporate slant and leaving feeling jaded. This is my observation.

Gotta bring back the mob for that to happen.

[bledsoe3]

Or legalize prostitution in Clark County.

[jfkIII]

Originally Posted by bledsoe3

Or legalize prostitution in Clark County.

...a VERY personal touch.

[jfkIII]

Originally Posted by MomMom

Al Quaeda sent the 9/11 suicide bombers to Las Vegas prior to the attacks in NYC. To "scout" a potential target? Or were the news reports correct in the reporting that the terrorists stayed here in a cheap motel and "indulged" in the ways of Sin City before meeting Allah and becoming martyrs for their own cause.

Let me guess....they stayed at the Allahdin?

[chris0681]

Vegas will never go through what Detroit has, Detroit is a segregated, cold half the year, not close to any large area, manufacturing city with little tourism, and Vegas is a hot most of the year, close to LA, and one of the biggest tourist destinations in the USA. Sure gambling may be down and projects may be delayed, and unemployment may be at record highs, but its like that across the country.. you really cant measure Vegas' dimise unless you measure it when the economy turns around too, and then Vegas should turn around as well.

[jfkIII]

Originally Posted by mojavedxer

Declining gaming revenues since 06 have already showed the proof. Will Vegas wither up and die? No. But it will have to reinvent itself again to be successful again. Every place in town is limping along and taking the wait and see approach. This is the time to buy a few shares in a couple of gaming stocks if you can understand what going on behind closed doors.

Just a suggestion for reinvention...

Las Vegas has tried different things in the past...catering to mobsters, gamblers and eventually families. But hey..this is a new century...and the one market they haven't catered to is the GLBT (Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transgendered) community...one of the most up and coming (pardon the pun) demograph to receive lots of marketing attention today. They are fiercely [like that word?] loyal...are usually 2 high-income earners and spend lavishly [another good word!] If you've ever been to Provincetown on Cape Cod (MA)....you know this can work!

First we need a test market. I suggest that dyn's place be renamed from the Four Queens to the Four *****s. We then need some heavy theming...my suggestion: a naval vessel...with all workers dressed as sailors...very trim...built...and hair cut short. The restaurant should be renamed to The Rainbow Room (obviously)...and key entertainment such as Liza Minelli and Barbara Striesand be booked for long and initimate engagements. No need to change the table games...they already have black Jack and craps (including the come bet). However...they may want to get rid of the Playboy slots and replace them with more Jackpot Party ones.

[jfkIII]

Originally Posted by Spraynard Kruger

Vegas hasn't lost it's appeal, but it has lost its value propisition over the years as it has gone more metropolitan and upscale.

Just about everyone I know who has witnessed this evolution tells me how they enjoyed Vegas more prior to corporate rule. Now, the casinos spend more money on consultants when it's really quite simple...they need to treat the customer with a personal touch.

The move towards knowing every red cent a customer spends is beyond stupid. Want a discount buffet? Sign up for our card, so we can monitor you and your spending. Total Customer Awareness. And you know what? It's BS! A big gold casino on the south side of town is using their electronic billboard to get customers excited about the cheap, Chinese import crap they can win in giveaways. A waffle iron, a toaster, a sit and spin. Who is running the show? Who?

People travel to create memories. Too many people are coming here and feeling the gouge, the corporate slant and leaving feeling jaded. This is my observation.

The future of Las Vegas...is in its past!

[MomMom]

Originally Posted by jfkIII

Let me guess....they stayed at the Allahdin?

What entertainment, jfk you always make me laugh!

[jhiker1o]

Originally Posted by WestieJeff

I agree with what you're saying, but the "Resort Fee" issue isn't limited to Las Vegas. Almost every resort type hotel (and many that aren't) in any reasonably popular destination is tacking this type of fee on nowadays.

It is called gouging money from captive visitors. Bravo to Harrahs for their "No Resort Fee" upon arrival policy.