07-25-2012, 09:34 AM
Location: Centennial, Colorado
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The intersection at Highway 24 and Noland Road is just eight tenths of a mile slightly northeast of Independence square.
At this intersection was a square rather wide concrete pedestrian tunnel that went under US 24 on a diagonal from the northeast corner of the intersection to the southwest corner. As a kid going by in my parent’s car, this tunnel had always been there.
On both sides of the intersection, a tall fence surrounded concrete stairs leading down to the tunnel. I believe the tunnel may have originally been constructed to help protect walking grade school kids from Highway 24 traffic. Ott Elementary school was located a short distance north on the east side of Noland Road.
In 1958, that grade school was renovated and became an integral part of William Chrisman High School. A new Ott Elementary was constructed a short distance further north.
As a student at William Chrisman when it opened in 1958, I recall venturing into this tunnel one time when I walked my girlfriend home early in the eleventh grade. This was about one month before I received my driver’s license.
Maybe this tunnel was eliminated when Noland was widened, but my mind seems to say it was still there afterwards. However, on my last trip, I noticed that the fences were gone and there is no evidence on either side of a tunnel entrance.
The stairs have apparently been filled in but I suspect the tunnel is still down there waiting for someone in the 22nd century to dig down and wonder what it was.
Anyone know the story behind the tunnel?
07-25-2012, 11:36 AM
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That is Lexington Street looking east from almost Osage Street.
That is the Bundschu Department Store way in the back.
Good find! What a busy place.
Just did a "Walk-thru" using Google Streetview.
Much of the n. side remains intact. As WCHS said, the corner Denton Drug Store building was replaced. West of that the buildings are pretty much the same, from 206 (Cafe Verona) to 212 ("Hair Styling/Nails") Then what looks to be the alley which cut northbound across Lexington, now the entrance to the proverbial parking lot.
Across Lexington, s. side pretty much devastated. All I could ID was the first building e. of the alley. 209-211, housing "50 Plus Prescriptions" and "law offices." On up to Liberty, the buildings look like replacements. West of the alley is a 70s-ish "Professional" building along with State Farm.
Both sides of the street have diagonal parking.
A stark contrast to the photo.
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07-25-2012, 12:45 PM
Location: East Independence
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I just posted on another site on the destruction of that grand old Post Office building....I went into the Army in 1962 and never came back to Independence to stay until 2009 and I was flabbergasted that all the old architecture is gone.....But back in the cobwebs I am thinkng there was a big animal statue in the entrance of one of the shoe stores on the north side of the square. It never dawned on my until I passed that that Rhino head about a local Pawn Shop sign, can anyone enlighteb ne....and I do remember the cigar store Indian.....worked at Pennys as a kid, and Milgrams as a bagger and "Owens?" on 24rd street (I think). Good simple dayz back then. We'd come outa the hills on Atherton Coutrney Road and my Mom would drop me off at the theater down by the Western Auto store and she went to her beautician, while I sat unnaccompanied in a movie. Well she thought I sat in the movie....once left alone I escaped to the Browns Drug Store on the square and perused all the "girlie" mags to finally learn all there was to know about the birds and bees, which our parents were so relunctant to explain to us back in the day.....
07-25-2012, 01:08 PM
Location: East Independence
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I remember Woolworth's on the square VIVIDLY....I was five and my mother had taken me with her on her bi-monthly shopping visit to Independence, from out in the "sticks" of rural Atherton-Courtney Road.....when it was time to leave I had my mind set on a toy remington rifle that I HAD to have....politely and determandely my mother tried to get me outa the store, and somewhere along the route out I somehow weht into "tantrum mode" and just plainly lost it....After two distinct "thats enough now, lets goes" which I ignored...my mother pulled down my pants and in front of God and everybody tanned and scorched my uncontrollable behind; with my face embedded in the wooden floor, while she thrashed me into obedience......I can still see the wood grain of those unfinished pine boards today, in my mind 60 plus years later......I listened to my mother untill her dying day so it musta worked.....
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07-25-2012, 02:00 PM
Location: Centennial, Colorado
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Do you remember that rickety wooden bridge over the railroad tracks on the way from Atherton to Fort Osage and Sibley?
I swear it had a 90 degree turn on one side or the other of the tracks. I think it was single lane, also.
There was some place out there called Sunshine Lakes.
07-25-2012, 04:33 PM
Location: Centennial, Colorado
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Street Names
Lexington Street, Independence. This is the street going past the square and not the other two with the same name that exist in other parts of the city. Former name of Lexington was Electric Street.
Maple Street, Independence. Former name of this street was Rock Street.
Truman Road, Independence. Former name of this street was Van Horn Street.
Van Horn Street was renamed after Truman became president.
Electric Street was renamed in the early 20th century.
Rock Street seems to have changed to Maple, perhaps, in the thirties.
07-25-2012, 08:09 PM
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My Dad was asst. mgr. of the original Safeway sev. blcks down from square on W. Maple. Dont recall which block but bldg was brick with big wondows. I have a b/w pic of him and the mgr. standing out front in their big white aprons. He met my Mom there in l935 and the rest is history! That bldg is long gone. I dont recall a Safeway near the square. Probably after my time. I left in '54 and visited only a few times in the 60s. You might think I've been away longer that I was there so why am I so still taken up with my long ago hometown? I'm just funny that way. Was taken away against my will so I guess it wouldnt take a psychologist to tell why I still am attached at the hip to Independence, MO. Very attached to my family and friends and my town. Sob. It's done me a world of good to see and share all of the above info and pix. Yea! And thank you.TTYL
During WWII the Safeway store was on Main just north of Walnut. My Beloved's mother worked there, and at the end of the war she met her future husband when he returned from the war and started working there as a meat cutter.
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The intersection at Highway 24 and Noland Road is just eight tenths of a mile slightly northeast of Independence square.
At this intersection was a square rather wide concrete pedestrian tunnel that went under US 24 on a diagonal from the northeast corner of the intersection to the southwest corner. As a kid going by in my parent’s car, this tunnel had always been there.
On both sides of the intersection, a tall fence surrounded concrete stairs leading down to the tunnel. I believe the tunnel may have originally been constructed to help protect walking grade school kids from Highway 24 traffic. Ott Elementary school was located a short distance north on the east side of Noland Road.
In 1958, that grade school was renovated and became an integral part of William Chrisman High School. A new Ott Elementary was constructed a short distance further north.
As a student at William Chrisman when it opened in 1958, I recall venturing into this tunnel one time when I walked my girlfriend home early in the eleventh grade. This was about one month before I received my driver’s license.
Maybe this tunnel was eliminated when Noland was widened, but my mind seems to say it was still there afterwards. However, on my last trip, I noticed that the fences were gone and there is no evidence on either side of a tunnel entrance.
The stairs have apparently been filled in but I suspect the tunnel is still down there waiting for someone in the 22nd century to dig down and wonder what it was.
Anyone know the story behind the tunnel?
The tunnel was still there in the 70s, although it was unused. I think it was capped 1980-ish when that intersection was improved to add turn lanes.
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WCHS'59
Lexington Street, Independence. This is the street going past the square and not the other two with the same name that exist in other parts of the city. Former name of Lexington was Electric Street.
Maple Street, Independence. Former name of this street was Rock Street.
Truman Road, Independence. Former name of this street was Van Horn Street.
Van Horn Street was renamed after Truman became president.
Electric Street was renamed in the early 20th century.
Rock Street seems to have changed to Maple, perhaps, in the thirties.
Truman Road east of Main was formerly called Spring Branch Road. I'm not sure when it was changed, perhaps when Van Horn Road was.
07-25-2012, 08:13 PM
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Fred. welcome ! Owens Market--there was one on the corner of Noland and 23rd (formerly Alton)--the N/E corner. I lived a block away as a child and that's where we shopped. His first name w as Ted and his beautiful wife was Marge. We had a "tab" so when I was sent over for something I didn't need to carry any money. Like you I was real upset to find the big beautiful P. O. gone. Those old bldgs with so much character should never be removed. There oughta be a law! Enjoyed your several tidbits about your experiences On The Square. Hope you'll have more . . .
07-25-2012, 08:17 PM
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Mad, I do not recall knowing about a tunnel under 24 Hwy ! We had our football games in the 50s at the Ott School field and walked back to the hi sch bldg on Maple on Fri nites. Far as I recall, we crossed 24 Hwy and cont'd walking back to town in the middle of the streets thru the residential neighborhoods sing ing songs and haveing a great time. Back at school we'd have a dance !That's very interesting, though.
07-25-2012, 08:32 PM
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Sorry, 59, I got mixed up. It was you who brought up the tunnel talk. I well remember Van Horn Ave. and felt disgusted when it changed to Truman. I am certain Mr. Van Horn was ameaningful historic figure in Indep. and it's disrespectful --VERY !!--to take his name off that street and replace it. I do not see how the powers that be can think it honorable. They should've given Truman a different street--a street with no name yet or with a numbered name, like 23rd St.
Anyone remember Adair Park? I think it was southeast of town. I have pix of friends and I taken there in the 50s and I also have a pic of my mother there in her prime (before I was born!) She was standing on a little wooden bridge and in a ppic of me there I also was on the same bridge. It's very rustic, like unsanded branches.
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Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)