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Old 09-17-2013, 03:17 PM
 
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Let me guess: you are paying for that "landline"?
Yes it's separate than the Internet, they don't call it voip but that is what it is.



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No, it's not. When you sign up for a company like Vonage, do they run a new internet connection to your house?
This is not a third party service which has to run over your internet service. It's Comcast's service. e.g. they can allot me any bandwidth they want for the cable internet service, why would it be any different for the phone.

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But if you decide to add internet to that package, they aren't running a new line to your house.
And if I add cable TV they aren't running a new line either but it most certainly is separate service.


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It's a total ripoff.
I'd agree, it was good deal at the start but I'm going to switch it.
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:35 PM
 
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It absolutely is not. It requires a separate box that turns the Data coming from the cable into something your phone can use. It's a separate device running over your existing broadband connection that you are already paying for.
You don't seriously think they dedicate an extra 69K to just your phone line (which is a decent amount for a quality call)?
This is absolutely incorrect. Comcast has dedicated channels for their voice service that are separate from data. Comcast voice does not travel over comcast data channels and does not go through the internet (like Vonage and other VOIP providers).
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Old 09-17-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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No, it's not. When you sign up for a company like Vonage, do they run a new internet connection to your house? No, they plug in a different kind of modem that runs over your existing internet connection.
Vonage is an internet phone service provider. Comcast is not. Comcast does not use your existing internet connection for their voice service.
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Of course you can get just the phone service (which will be a data connection connected to the VOIP modem). Why wouldn't they offer that? But if you decide to add internet to that package, they aren't running a new line to your house. They use the existing broadband connection.
My point is it costs them exactly NOTHING for you to run that "phone" over their system. Because it uses that existing. broadband. connection. and they charge you "rent" for the modem that does it.
But they charge you a "discount" for all 3 and you think you're getting a deal.
It's a total ripoff.

It all comes down to marketing.
Comcast: We
Actually, the copper/fiber carries multiple services. The broadband connection is only one of those services and is limited to certain channels (typically, 600Mhz block for Comcast). The comcast voice service is on another set of channels (different block) that is completely independent from the internet (Comcast VOIP service is not an internet phone service). Same with TV. So phone service does not use the existing broadband connection.
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Does this make any sense in support of the argument?
I don't know since it's all still magic to me.
To get internet only, Comcast would give me a certain modem.
To also have a landline, a different modem is required .
If both services were 'sharing', why would a larger/different modem be needed?
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Old 09-19-2013, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Because one modem carries your data signal. The other modem converts that data signal to a signal that a phone can understand. Magic happens in there.

OK so apparently Comcast does things a little different. Time Warner does not.
I stand corrected.
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