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Old 12-18-2009, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Originally Posted by ♥♥PRINC3Ss♥♥ View Post
Agree because you guys never have real percentages, just "absolute truths" When you make generalizations like the following, you all lose all credibility:

According to this board all Illegal aliens:
All have anchor babies
They ALL apply for welfare benefits
None of them Pay Taxes and somehow get tax refunds
They all get sick and abuse emergency services
They all hate white Americans and call them stupid

And then you see threats like the Russian economist or 2010 one and one has to wonder if you all are writing from your home/workplace or from some other institution
Although no one can deny that all illegal aliens age 18 up are criminals factoring in ID theft, non reporting of income, etc. Crimes like that would land my American butt in the slammer.
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Old 12-18-2009, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I don't think that's the case. I have seen plenty of people getting fired from big corporations for having expired work permits. Trust me big corporations know the law.
That would be a legitimate reason, there is no risk involved in asking an employee to update their expired work permit before continuing employment with the company, in fact it would be against the law to not do that.
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:12 PM
 
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Do you feel stabbed in the back by illegal immigration and the government's handling of it?


My family came here in 1680, to start a new life in a land where opportunity existed. This is not unlike the plight of hispanic families now. Why should I dislike the hispanics for doing exactly what my family did (we also arrived without papers) also......why would I suspect the government capable of doing anything efficiently?
A gross generalization. As a matter of fact, 'coming here' is VASTLY different today, than it was in 1680. The society now is different, the economy is different, the availability of opportunity is different, etc.

I don't know what my ancestors were doing in 1680, but I KNOW their situation in NO way compares with mine, now. You want immigration to be run 'just like' 1680? How many other facets of modern life, in your opinion, are 'just like 1680'? How many things today SHOULD be done as if it were 1680? How many should NOT?....
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:15 PM
 
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It's frustrating when people try to bring up 1680, 1700, or any other year to try to compare today's time with those days. That's like the people at rallies and marches who are fighting deportation and have signs that say, "You go home Pilgrim" or "We are all immigrants." I give them an E for effort, but come on now, really?
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ♥♥PRINC3Ss♥♥ View Post
Agree because you guys never have real percentages, just "absolute truths" When you make generalizations like the following, you all lose all credibility:

According to this board all Illegal aliens:
All have anchor babies
They ALL apply for welfare benefits
None of them Pay Taxes and somehow get tax refunds
They all get sick and abuse emergency services
They all hate white Americans and call them stupid

And then you see threats like the Russian economist or 2010 one and one has to wonder if you all are writing from your home/workplace or from some other institution
Hmm, I don't recall anyone making those statements with the word
"All" in it.
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Old 12-18-2009, 04:32 PM
 
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A gross generalization. As a matter of fact, 'coming here' is VASTLY different today, than it was in 1680. The society now is different, the economy is different, the availability of opportunity is different, etc.

I don't know what my ancestors were doing in 1680, but I KNOW their situation in NO way compares with mine, now. You want immigration to be run 'just like' 1680? How many other facets of modern life, in your opinion, are 'just like 1680'? How many things today SHOULD be done as if it were 1680? How many should NOT?....
Great post!
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ♥♥PRINC3Ss♥♥ View Post
Agree because you guys never have real percentages, just "absolute truths" When you make generalizations like the following, you all lose all credibility:

According to this board all Illegal aliens:
All have anchor babies
They ALL apply for welfare benefits
None of them Pay Taxes and somehow get tax refunds
They all get sick and abuse emergency services
They all hate white Americans and call them stupid
Show me one comment in any thread on this forum in which somebody has said any of the five things that you listed above. If you can't, then you have lost all credibility on this forum.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by ♥♥PRINC3Ss♥♥ View Post
Agree because you guys never have real percentages, just "absolute truths" When you make generalizations like the following, you all lose all credibility:

According to this board all Illegal aliens:
All have anchor babies
They ALL apply for welfare benefits
None of them Pay Taxes and somehow get tax refunds
They all get sick and abuse emergency services
They all hate white Americans and call them stupid

And then you see threats like the Russian economist or 2010 one and one has to wonder if you all are writing from your home/workplace or from some other institution
Never read a single post that made these claims other than yours.
I will however provide you with 1 absolute fact.
100% of all illegals are in fact a criminal, all are in violation of our immigration laws and policies.
Care to dispute this fact?
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:07 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Never read a single post that made these claims other than yours.
I will however provide you with 1 absolute fact.
100% of all illegals are in fact a criminal, all are in violation of our immigration laws and policies.
Care to dispute this fact?
Not in dispute my friend, however, what's debatable is whether the Pro-Illegals have illegal relatives here. I don't think that's too much of a stretch.
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:39 AM
 
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I recently received an email regarding the Oklahoma legislation 1804 which looks to be the some of the most strict legislation on illegal immigration and I would think would be a good test case for the rest of the country to see what kind of effect strict legislation has on the states economy. Seems the trade off is between staying competitive with cheap labor vs. the drain on the state in funding schools, medical and other benefits to illegals. Has there been any documentation on economic effects that anyone know of? The only thing I can find on the internet is that illegals are leaving in droves for other US states or back to native countries.

My view on the illegal aliens is pretty black and white. Anyone here illegally should not be entitled to any of the rights of a US citizen that is paying taxes to support. This includes illegals enrolling their children in schools and colleges, financing their medical needs or any other financial assistance from the US government. I really do not understand the other side of the debate, if someone sneaks across a border illegally why should I (meaning US taxpayer) have to support this person?
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