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Old 08-20-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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You jumped in, and nailed it.
Nailed it with the same wrong talking points (ie "jumping in line") they always use.

 
Old 08-20-2011, 12:28 PM
 
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They'll never admit this upfront, of course, because (as they say) times have changed and open racism and bigotry is no longer socially acceptable.
Apparently, organizations such as National Council of La Raza (The Race) never received the memo that stated this.
 
Old 08-20-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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Apparently, organizations such as National Council of La Raza (The Race) never received the memo that stated this.
Does the fact that la raza is racist give other people license to be racist?

FWIW, I have and will continue to condemn racism from la raza as well as others.
 
Old 08-20-2011, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Nailed it with the same wrong talking points (ie "jumping in line") they always use.
Like it, or not, there IS a line. But, I realize anything you disagree with ceases to exist in your mind. People are waiting in foreign countries for the opportunity to set foot on U.S. soil, while illegal aliens are already here. Some choose to wait their turn, while illegals have jumped ahead by ignoring the legal process.

BTW, if there is no line, then why is one provision of so-called immigration reform that illegals must get at the back of the line? Hmmm. . .
 
Old 08-20-2011, 12:59 PM
 
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The "we don't have room" boogeyman is just another scare tactic. The US is, relative to most industrialized nations, very, very sparsely populated.
Every square inch of land in the U.S. is owned either by individuals, corporations, or various levels of government (city, county, state, federal). There are no more open spaces to settle as there were hundreds of years ago. And we aren't building any new cities from scratch to accommodate these new arrivals of foreigners. So when foreigners come to this country today, they tend to settle in our larger cities because of, among other things, the job opportunities that are available there. As a result, our cities get more congested, our schools and hospitals get more crowded, our commutes to work take longer, and our quality of life is lessened.

I have no doubt that all of the approximately 6.5 billion people on this planet could physically fit inside the U.S., but that's not what people mean when they say "we don't have room" for every foreigner who would like to come to this country.
 
Old 08-20-2011, 01:03 PM
 
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Every square inch of land in the U.S. is owned either by individuals, corporations, or various levels of government (city, county, state, federal). There are no more open spaces to settle as there were hundreds of years ago. And we aren't building any new cities from scratch to accommodate these new arrivals of foreigners. So when foreigners come to this country today, they tend to settle in our larger cities because of, among other things, the job opportunities that are available there. As a result, our cities get more congested, our schools and hospitals get more crowded, our commutes to work take longer, and our quality of life is lessened.

I have no doubt that all of the approximately 6.5 billion people on this planet could physically fit inside the U.S., but that's not what people mean when they say "we don't have room" for every foreigner who would like to come to this country.
Oh, this sounds serious. We better implement the chinese one-child policy then, yes?
 
Old 08-20-2011, 03:41 PM
 
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You jumped in, and nailed it.
Not to mention that the one who claims we can take in millions or billions more in this country because of space has no idea what the carrying capacity of a nation means. It isn't just about space but ariable land space. The depletion of our natural resources, water, food, gridlock on the highways, air pollution, the need for hundreds of thousands of more health and education workers, more jails, schools, hospitals, law enforcement and we would have to build on every square inch of land while demolishing our forests and other natural preserves. Who wants to live like they do in India stacked in like sardines? It would be an intolerable quality of life for everyone here in so many ways. Why in the world move everyone here when there are countries all over the world with land and resources just like us? Cram everyone into this country? What a ridiculous idea!
 
Old 08-20-2011, 03:54 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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You could write his script for him.

Just use words like:

racist, strawman, hysterics and the like.

I swear he's like a toy. Pull the string and you get the toy to say certain words over and over again. You could probably get the toy to just keep saying racist over and over again.

Unfortunately too many of our elected leaders agree with him. The idiot editorial in the OP is a classic example of this sort of nonsense. At no point does the author explain WHY Obama's policies are racist. Instead we get the implication that if such laws affect hispanics more than others (because most illegals are hispanic) then the policies are inherently racist.

We all know the author in the OP would not care if about illegal immigration if most illegals were not hispanic. Because racism and identity politics are fine for the correct groups (La Raza and the like). But if you dare oppose their racist policies and advocacy then you are the racist.

Insane, right?
Sort of like someone else pulling Obama's strings he is a puppet. You mean a toy that repeats itself, until the batteries run out.
 
Old 08-20-2011, 03:55 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Originally Posted by Eleanora1 View Post
You could write his script for him.

Just use words like:

racist, strawman, hysterics and the like.

I swear he's like a toy. Pull the string and you get the toy to say certain words over and over again. You could probably get the toy to just keep saying racist over and over again.

Unfortunately too many of our elected leaders agree with him. The idiot editorial in the OP is a classic example of this sort of nonsense. At no point does the author explain WHY Obama's policies are racist. Instead we get the implication that if such laws affect hispanics more than others (because most illegals are hispanic) then the policies are inherently racist.

We all know the author in the OP would not care if about illegal immigration if most illegals were not hispanic. Because racism and identity politics are fine for the correct groups (La Raza and the like). But if you dare oppose their racist policies and advocacy then you are the racist.

Insane, right?
Sort of like one of those annoying new toys, pull the string it says the same thing over and over and over again, repeating itself until the batteries run out.
 
Old 08-20-2011, 04:12 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Originally Posted by Eleanora1 View Post
You could write his script for him.

Just use words like:

racist, strawman, hysterics and the like.

I swear he's like a toy. Pull the string and you get the toy to say certain words over and over again. You could probably get the toy to just keep saying racist over and over again.

Unfortunately too many of our elected leaders agree with him. The idiot editorial in the OP is a classic example of this sort of nonsense. At no point does the author explain WHY Obama's policies are racist. Instead we get the implication that if such laws affect hispanics more than others (because most illegals are hispanic) then the policies are inherently racist.

We all know the author in the OP would not care if about illegal immigration if most illegals were not hispanic. Because racism and identity politics are fine for the correct groups (La Raza and the like). But if you dare oppose their racist policies and advocacy then you are the racist.

Insane, right?
Like one of those annoying toys, that repeats itself over and over and over again, till the batteries run cold.
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