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Originally Posted by stanman13
I rented a Hyundai Elantra and drove it across the state a couple of times. It was awful. I don't think they've heard of sound deadening, the seats were hard, the armrests in unusable locations, and the whole thing seemed tinny. If it were cheaper, I could understand. But there are better cars out there for the money.
I ended up with one on a recently trip. Drove it 600 mines over the course of the week. It was the second worst car I have had as a rental (PT Cruiser is the worst, I refuse them if they try to give me one). The seat was unconformable, but it was the first few minutes of driving it that bugged me most. I could feel every pebble I drove over. I like a responsive car, but this was ridiculous. I was seriously wondering if I ever had power steering at some points.
I like how, when all is said, the only thing Hyundai supporters can really point to is the Genesis.
Which is selling at a glacial pace.
I actually point to the entire range as good vehicles. The Genesis is the holy grail of their US offering so its no wondering I find it attractive. Not to mention I currently drive a G35 so nothing in the Hyundai line up other than the Genesis would be an upgrade. I wouldn’t buy anything Honda or Toyota offers at all because they are all boring FWD cars. The Genesis is actually pushing better than expected sales numbers and is selling quite well.
The Genesis is averaging 1,000+ units per month, 90% of its buyers never owned a Hyundai and 40% of new buyers have traded in a Lexus, BMW, Mercedes or Porsche. All in an economic climate that is awful for auto manufacturers. Bravo Hyundai.
I like how, when all is said, the only thing Hyundai supporters can really point to is the Genesis.
Which is selling at a glacial pace.
Hyundai-Kia sold 12,000 cars in 1994 and over 4,000,000 in 2007.
"The Korean automaker was globally ranked 11th place in 1999, but moved up to 5th place in 2007 by out-selling rivals such as Honda, Nissan, PSA / Peugeot, Chrysler and Fiat."
1. Toyota Motor Corp. 9,366,000
2. General Motors 8,902,252
3. Volkswagen AG 6,191,618
4. Ford Motor Co. 5,964,000
5. Hyundai-Kia Automotive Group 3,961,629
6. Honda Motor Co. Ltd. 3,831,000
7. Nissan Motor Co. 3,675,574
8. PSA/Peugeot-Citroen SA 3,428,400
9. Chrysler LLC 2,676,268
10. Fiat S.p.A. 2,620,864
lol they didn't need to point to the nonexistent Genesis to be the fastest market-share gaining automotive group ever.
I have learned not to mess with Hyundai owners. It's not that I'm a convert to the brand or anything. I just know they'll come get me. After the car is more "accepted" the defensive nature of the owners will subside. It's all good. I'm sure the early Honda and Toyota owners in the states caught tons of hell and had to be defensive. I remember the older folks called them "rice burners" for the longest. :-)
I don't own a Hyundai. I own a 2003 Chevy Malibu. My wife owns a 2007 Dodge Avenger.
Hyundai-Kia sold 12,000 cars in 1994 and over 4,000,000 in 2007.
"The Korean automaker was globally ranked 11th place in 1999, but moved up to 5th place in 2007 by out-selling rivals such as Honda, Nissan, PSA / Peugeot, Chrysler and Fiat."
1. Toyota Motor Corp. 9,366,000
2. General Motors 8,902,252
3. Volkswagen AG 6,191,618
4. Ford Motor Co. 5,964,000
5. Hyundai-Kia Automotive Group 3,961,629
6. Honda Motor Co. Ltd. 3,831,000
7. Nissan Motor Co. 3,675,574
8. PSA/Peugeot-Citroen SA 3,428,400
9. Chrysler LLC 2,676,268
10. Fiat S.p.A. 2,620,864
lol they didn't need to point to the nonexistent Genesis to be the fastest market-share gaining automotive group ever.
I didn't realize they had that much volume in global sales.
Yet still scores better on msn auto than your car. BTW, 0-60 listed as 11.2 for the 2002 Accent and 14.1 for a 1991 Ford Escort. Both awfully slow, but a far cry from what you've been saying.
Yeah, I guess you just do not understand . I tried to tell you I drive a 5 speed 1991 Ford Escort Pony, which is not a regular escort. It is a good 200 pounds lighter than a normal escort. It has no air conditioning, power steering, sound deadening, or even a passenger mirror. I even removed most of the interior, and anything else I could to make it lighter. It is not fast, but it runs 8.8 0-60, and 16.7 in the Quarter mile. I have a G meter in which I got these numbers. I have raced Accents and Elantras, and have beaten both every time. By the way, 14.1 to 60, where did you get that?? They are 10.4 to 60 with the 4 door regular model with air, power steering and the options.
I didn't realize they had that much volume in global sales.
Fastest growing as well.
Elantra was also recognized by AutoPacific reccently.
"Hyundai picks up Ideal Vehicle Awards
In the U.S., automotive research and consulting firm AutoPacific named Hyundai Motor Company’s Genesis and Elantra ‘2009 Ideal Vehicles’ in their respective categories. In the Aspirational Luxury Car category, the Hyundai Genesis beat out top rivals including the Audi A5 and A4, Volvo XC70 and Cadillac CTS, while the Hyundai Elantra topped the Ford Focus, Mazda3 and Kia Spectra (Cerato in Australia) in the Compact Car segment. Additionally, the Hyundai Sonata finished second in the Premium Mid-Size Car segment.
AutoPacific’s fourth annual Ideal Vehicle Awards (IVA) rank auto manufacturers for how closely their 2009 model year passenger cars, pickups, SUVs or people movers came to matching owners’ expectations and criteria. To determine the winners, AutoPacific asked owners to rate their new car or truck on how close it came to “ideal” in 15 different categories ranging from power and acceleration to safety features and storage. The vehicles that customers said they would change the least were considered the most “ideal.”
“Hyundai has created two vehicles that owners say are nearly perfect just the way they are: their ideal vehicle,” said George Peterson, president, AutoPacific. “Owners of the Genesis and Elantra indicated through AutoPacific’s survey that they are driving a vehicle that meets their expectations, meaning they desire little to no change to their vehicle.”
In the U.S. Hyundai’s Genesis sedan sets a new benchmark in the premium car category. With a starting price of just US$33,000, Genesis includes performance and luxury features typically found on vehicles costing thousands of dollars more.
About AutoPacific
AutoPacific is a future-oriented automotive marketing and product-consulting firm. Every year it publishes a wide variety of syndicated studies for the automotive industry. The firm also conducts extensive proprietary research and consulting for auto manufacturers, distributors, marketers and suppliers worldwide. Additional information can be found at www.autopacific.com."
I was considering a Hyundai Sonata, but got the Accord instead last week. My next luxury sedan will be a Genesis! Forget BMW, Cadillac, or Lexus.. Hyundai it is!!!
So more selective hand picking? 1991 was a great year and all but this is 2009, a time when Hyundai is doing very well and has been for years.
Here's a few I quickly got from carsurvey.org for a 1991 Escort:
Don't even go there......
126 words
Escort
Recommended as long as you don't mind all the electrics inside the car slowly failing
115 words
Escort
Don't waste your time or money on this poorly made car!!
101 words
Escort
A regular Escort has problems, but the Pony model doesn't have the complexity, and/or electronic problems the regular Escort has. I would like you to post one bad review of the Pony Escort like I drive. You can't as I said earlier, so the case is closed. You can not seem to get it through your head that the Pony is a different car.
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I tried to tell you I drive a 5 speed 1991 Ford Escort Pony, which is not a regular escort. It is a good 200 pounds lighter than a normal escort. It has no air conditioning, power steering, sound deadening, or even a passenger mirror. I even removed most of the interior, and anything else I could to make it lighter. It is not fast, but it runs 8.8 0-60, and 16.7 in the Quarter mile. I have a G meter in which I got these numbers. I have raced Accents and Elantras, and have beaten both every time. By the way, 14.1 to 60, where did you get that?? They are 10.4 to 60 with the 4 door regular model with air, power steering and the options.
