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Old 05-30-2016, 01:40 PM
 
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I cannot comment on Houston's traffic since I never drove during rush hour. Houston does have those three lane one way roads in downtown though (Atlanta has these too) which I think are dumb. My two main gripes with the roads are that the ones I encountered are in far worse condition than Atlanta (for the most part) and number two is that all of the roads are straight. Within a 10 minute drive from my home in Atlanta is a plethora of scenic twisties that I can enjoy.
I agree that Houston's city roads are in bad shape; there are lots of potholes/cracks through them. However, the interstates,freeways, etc are well paved.

Scenic roads can either be straight or curvy, I don't see how straight roads are a limiting factor for Houston, as you say. The only real complaint for Houston, in regards to scenic roads, that I can understand is the use of "feeder" (frontage) roads often, which can lead to blight on the landscape (via a form of overdevelopment/sprawl, complete with billboards).

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Atlanta is prettier to me as it is literally a city within a forest. I was on the top floor of a office building in downtown Houston and all I saw out the window was a flat city with none of the varying natural beauty and topography of Atlanta. Some of the architecture in downtown was interesting but for the most part Houston looks like a very efficient but boring city in my opinion. That said, I am still moving to Houston so maybe it will grow on me.
Atlanta's setting in a forest is beautiful, but consider this: if you are in a high office building in Atlanta, you will see nothing but trees. Is a sight full of trees really varying to you? I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from, that's all.

Do you know of the various natural features that Houston does have close access to (pine forests, bayous, Gulf of Mexico beaches, etc)?
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Old 05-30-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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I agree that Houston's city roads are in bad shape; there are lots of potholes/cracks through them. However, the interstates,freeways, etc are well paved.

Scenic roads can either be straight or curvy, I don't see how straight roads are a limiting factor for Houston, as you say. The only real complaint for Houston, in regards to scenic roads, that I can understand is the use of "feeder" (frontage) roads often, which can lead to blight on the landscape (via a form of overdevelopment/sprawl, complete with billboards).
I own a couple of sports cars and love to drive. Straight roads are boring and after some research it seems like there are not many options for twisty public roads in Houston. I am considering selling my cars as a result.

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Atlanta's setting in a forest is beautiful, but consider this: if you are in a high office building in Atlanta, you will see nothing but trees. Is a sight full of trees really varying to you? I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from, that's all.

Do you know of the various natural features that Houston does have close access to (pine forests, bayous, Gulf of Mexico beaches, etc)?
Out of my Buckhead office I can see the skyscrapers in Downtown standing among a sea of forestry. From some spots I can even see Stone Mountain in the distance. I have been to and worked in numerous cities including Chicago, New York (lived there for 18 years), Boston, and Charlotte and while each have their charms none comes close to the natural beauty of Atlanta's views. Again this is all my opinion and I understand that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Some of the posters here are so fervent in their defense of Houston I do find it a little strange.

I have seen the bayous but have not explored the pine forests and beaches. Will certainly try to make time for it for my next work trip in a few weeks. Thanks!
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Old 05-30-2016, 02:41 PM
 
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I own a couple of sports cars and love to drive. Straight roads are boring and after some research it seems like there are not many options for twisty public roads in Houston. I am considering selling my cars as a result.
Then what will you use to get around the Houston area?


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Out of my Buckhead office I can see the skyscrapers in Downtown standing among a sea of forestry. From some spots I can even see Stone Mountain in the distance. I have been to and worked in numerous cities including Chicago, New York (lived there for 18 years), Boston, and Charlotte and while each have their charms none comes close to the natural beauty of Atlanta's views. Again this is all my opinion and I understand that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Some of the posters here are so fervent to defend Houston I do find it a little strange.

I have seen the bayous but have not explored the pine forests and beaches. Will certainly try to make time for it for my next work trip in a few weeks. Thanks!
The pine forests are to the north of Houston. They used to stretch down to where city limits are, currently, but they have been cut down. You can take weekend trips to areas like Big Thicket NP, Sam Houston National Forest, Lake Conroe, etc to see it. Some pine forest pockets exist along Galveston Bay/coast; they can be seen in some areas, like Dickinson, La Porte, Baytown, and Clear Lake.

As for beaches/water, check areas of Galveston Bay, specifically places like Clear Lake, League City, and Kemah; the atmosphere is quite resort-like, and the life-style recreational (much in contrast to the energy industry Houston is associated with). Beaches along the Gulf run from Bolivar Peninsula through Galveston Island, and down to Freeport. Don't expect Hawaii or Florida, but they have their charms, regardless.
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Old 05-30-2016, 02:50 PM
 
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Then what will you use to get around the Houston area?




The pine forests are to the north of Houston. They used to stretch down to where city limits are, currently, but they have been cut down. You can take weekend trips to areas like Big Thicket NP, Sam Houston National Forest, Lake Conroe, etc to see it. Some pine forest pockets exist along Galveston Bay/coast; they can be seen in some areas, like Dickinson, La Porte, Baytown, and Clear Lake.

As for beaches/water, check areas of Galveston Bay, specifically places like Clear Lake, League City, and Kemah; the atmosphere is quite resort-like, and the life-style recreational (much in contrast to the energy industry Houston is associated with). Beaches along the Gulf run from Bolivar Peninsula through Galveston Island, and down to Freeport. Don't expect Hawaii or Florida, but they have their charms, regardless.
I meant I am considering selling my sports cars and getting a commuter car. Depending on where I end up living, I may just bike to work most of the time!

Thanks for the suggestions, they look amazing. I have an entire week in Houston so I suspect I will have more than enough time to visit these areas.
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Old 05-30-2016, 02:56 PM
 
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I meant I am considering selling my sports cars and getting a commuter car. Depending on where I end up living, I may just bike to work most of the time!
Alright, just wanted to understand.

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Thanks for the suggestions, they look amazing. I have an entire week in Houston so I suspect I will have more than enough time to visit these areas.
Your welcome.
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Old 05-30-2016, 08:25 PM
 
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I own a couple of sports cars and love to drive. Straight roads are boring and after some research it seems like there are not many options for twisty public roads in Houston. I am considering selling my cars as a result.


Out of my Buckhead office I can see the skyscrapers in Downtown standing among a sea of forestry. From some spots I can even see Stone Mountain in the distance. I have been to and worked in numerous cities including Chicago, New York (lived there for 18 years), Boston, and Charlotte and while each have their charms none comes close to the natural beauty of Atlanta's views. Again this is all my opinion and I understand that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Some of the posters here are so fervent in their defense of Houston I do find it a little strange.

I have seen the bayous but have not explored the pine forests and beaches. Will certainly try to make time for it for my next work trip in a few weeks. Thanks!
North Houston and its burbs will give you that Atlanta scenery minus the hills. There are also some twisty roads up there.
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Old 05-30-2016, 08:31 PM
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I cannot comment on Houston's traffic since I never drove during rush hour. Houston does have those three lane one way roads in downtown though (Atlanta has these too) which I think are dumb. My two main gripes with the roads are that the ones I encountered are in far worse condition than Atlanta (for the most part) and number two is that all of the roads are straight. Within a 10 minute drive from my home in Atlanta is a plethora of scenic twisties that I can enjoy.

Atlanta is prettier to me as it is literally a city within a forest. I was on the top floor of a office building in downtown Houston and all I saw out the window was a flat city with none of the varying natural beauty and topography of Atlanta. Some of the architecture in downtown was interesting but for the most part Houston looks like a very efficient but boring city in my opinion. That said, I am still moving to Houston so maybe it will grow on me.
Houston has a vastly better road layout. Those twisting winding 2 lane roads with no left turn lanes are part of what make Atlanta's traffic horrendous. Its also why they have higher accident and insurance rates. As for condition, you didn't drive much in Atlanta (not that Houston's don't seem to be detereorating as well in the last couple of years). Not only do they have potholes everywhere, but they never sweep the streets. I get flats from nails all the time. 5 or 6 years ago, the freeways in Atlanta (but not the other roads) were in very good physical shape. But Georgia has let those deteriorate in recent years.
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Old 05-30-2016, 08:33 PM
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I agree that Houston's city roads are in bad shape; there are lots of potholes/cracks through them. However, the interstates,freeways, etc are well paved.

Scenic roads can either be straight or curvy, I don't see how straight roads are a limiting factor for Houston, as you say. The only real complaint for Houston, in regards to scenic roads, that I can understand is the use of "feeder" (frontage) roads often, which can lead to blight on the landscape (via a form of overdevelopment/sprawl, complete with billboards).



Atlanta's setting in a forest is beautiful, but consider this: if you are in a high office building in Atlanta, you will see nothing but trees. Is a sight full of trees really varying to you? I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from, that's all.

Do you know of the various natural features that Houston does have close access to (pine forests, bayous, Gulf of Mexico beaches, etc)?
Actually that's all you see from downtown Houston high rises-the trees. But Atlanta is more heavily forested and tends to have larger lot sizes.
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Old 05-31-2016, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Houston(Screwston),TX
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Have you been down West Paces Ferry or Paper Mill Road? I am floored by the extensive landscaping in Atlanta...eyecandy for this southerner. I just did not find that to be the case in Houston, hoping to explore more but hit over 15 suburban towns around Houston and just meh...I do like the road system better in Houston. Atlanta has created a mess on the north side since I lived there 15 years ago. We are moving to Houston in 1-2 months and still not sure where to live...nothing stands out...all are hitting 6-7 boxes ( different) but none of them are feeling like 'home'...maybe because Houston's boom was faster than Atlanta's gradual sprawl?
Me and my fiance were actually going to live off of West Paces Ferry road but ended up living in the Perimeter area.I'm impressed with Vinings/Cumberland area and believe that Sandy Springs and Dunwoody are very impressive suburbs. Outisde of that not that impressed. Matter fact some areas are downright bland. I grew up in East Texas with similar terrain so I grew up seeing similar landscaping. Me personally I believe Houston has the best looking suburb I've ever been to which is The Woodlands. And don't get me wrong Houston has alot of boring bland suburbs. Alot tend to look the same but still for some reason I'll put those bland burbs over some of the burbs I've ran across in Atlanta.
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Old 05-31-2016, 11:25 AM
 
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North Houston and its burbs will give you that Atlanta scenery minus the hills. There are also some twisty roads up there.
Awesome! Any particular roads I should check out? I'm looking at google maps and nothing sticks out to me.

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Houston has a vastly better road layout. Those twisting winding 2 lane roads with no left turn lanes are part of what make Atlanta's traffic horrendous. Its also why they have higher accident and insurance rates. As for condition, you didn't drive much in Atlanta (not that Houston's don't seem to be detereorating as well in the last couple of years). Not only do they have potholes everywhere, but they never sweep the streets. I get flats from nails all the time. 5 or 6 years ago, the freeways in Atlanta (but not the other roads) were in very good physical shape. But Georgia has let those deteriorate in recent years.
I drive a bunch in Atlanta. I even drove Uber for a while. i realize the sample size I am working with for Houston roads is relatively small but from what I have seen Atlanta roads are in much better condition overall and much funner to drive. Rush hour in any city is not fun, but my work hours often allow me to skip rush hour so not a big issue for me.
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