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Old 11-05-2021, 07:10 AM
 
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Forget the disaster that happened in Virginia. Do you even pay attention to local politics?







You can laugh all you want but this is setting up to be a massacre in 2022. Whatever happened to the Democratic Party that cared about the American worker? It doesn't exist anymore it has been hijacked by grifters with insane and unsustainable policies. Democrats now care more about Illegal Immigrants than they do American citizens and it is a losing proposition for a vast majority of the country.


https://www.ajc.com/politics/opinion...GRUWIDKPROU3E/




Why don't you just admit you are a bigot and that this is what this about? I, personally, would respect you more. I will be the first to find fault in any political party's wrongdoings, but I have a feeling you wouldn't recognize anything good in a Democratic candidate if it were right in front of you.


Here's a question. Give me 5 legitimate things the GOP is doing to make your personal life better. And I do mean legitimate. 5 policies you can specifically point to that they want to enact that positively affect your's or your family's life.


I am not a Democrat or Republican. I give credit where it is due. Let's see how much you actually care about people over team fetishization. You keep talking about a "massacre" the way you all did in 2020 about the POTUS election and how Trump was going to win. I can tell you right now, as a moderate, it is not "in the bag" with the middle of the electorate.

 
Old 11-05-2021, 07:12 AM
 
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Job creation roars back in October as payrolls rise by 531,000

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/05/jobs...mber-2021.html



Ahem....

Job participation rate is only 61.6% which tells us there are a lot of people who simply don't want to go back to work and that number hasn't changed for almost a year now. There are still 10 million job openings. Inflation is killing expenses for businesses which is another thing that is very worrisome. It isn't all roses and tulips and those of us that studied economics and finance in college know that one arbitrary number isn't the whole story.
 
Old 11-05-2021, 07:15 AM
 
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Job participation rate is only 61.6% which tells us there are a lot of people who simply don't want to go back to work and that number hasn't changed for almost a year now. There are still 10 million job openings. Inflation is killing expenses for businesses which is another thing that is very worrisome. It isn't all roses and tulips and those of us that studied economics and finance in college know that one arbitrary number isn't the whole story.

That is YOUR interpretation of the data. Let the non-opinion piece stand for itself. And I have two PhDs and a Masters. I didn't get them by being stupid. With all due respect, as "someone who studied economics", I can see why you are also "not rich" with whatever degree you earned. I wouldn't want you touching my portfolio because you are horribly biased. Get out of your head and give credit where it is due...Mr. Lifelong Democrat. BS. I hate liars. I hate bigots more. Whether you like it or not, this state is now minority majority. My spouse happens to be a person of color. You have no idea the level of animosity some of you here are creating with your nasty comments. And for whatever it is worth to you...I would be careful about keeping that tone as the power shifts to them. A backlash of epic proportions is brewing because of it. And you know what? I get it. Not only do I get it, I think it is long overdue so some can see what all the calls for justice have been about. The tables do need to turn.


Since you are such a "lifelong Democrat", also give 5 things Biden has done that negatively affect you or your family's lives. Legitimate policy you can point to that affect you personally.

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Old 11-05-2021, 07:29 AM
 
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Why don't you just admit you are a bigot and that this is what this about? I, personally, would respect you more. I will be the first to find fault in any political party's wrongdoings, but I have a feeling you wouldn't recognize anything good in a Democrat candidate if it were right in front of you.


Here's a question. Give me 5 legitimate things the GOP is doing to make your personal life better. And I do mean legitimate. 5 policies you can specifically point to that they want to enact that positively affect yours or your family's life.


I am not a Democrat or Republican. I give credit where it is due. Let's see how much you actually care about people over team fetishization.

I have voted for Democratic candidates my whole life. I am a New Yorker who moved to Atlanta over 30 years ago so lets not try and paint me as some Right Wing local who is voting for Brian Kemp I'm not going to give you 5 things because I don't vote for Republican or Conservative candidates. You keep bringing this up about your rural family who votes Republican that is against their interests but the funny thing is people in urban areas vote against their best interests as well. Policies that promote perpetual poverty and continue the circle of poverty and things like failing schools, failing infrastructure, do nothing for anyone. It shouldn't be a goal to have more or be completely dependent upon social programs to survive. The goal should be to get off those programs not add more to it. You keep throwing the words bigot, racism, etc around did you look at Virginia? Republicans just elected a black lieutenant governor and a Hispanic attorney general. People like you are driving people like me who have never voted for a Republican (unless you count Zell Miller but when I voted for him he was a Democrat) away from the Democratic party. You claim to be neutral but you can't even see what is going on here? The Democratic party right now is doing NOTHING to make my life better they are making is worse. A lot of people are taking notice and you can ignore it all you want but when Democratic candidates lose nationally in 2022 you will just come on here and blame racism, bigotry, etc. you won't blame the failed and insane policies of the current administration that is an absolute disaster for your average everyday working American. As I said earlier somewhere along the way in recent times the Democratic Party has transformed from one that cared about and supported the working class into one that is the wealthy elite and has more in common with someone that lives in The Hamptons, Nantucket, or Greeenwich than someone in the rust belt or southeast. It's perplexing for sure.

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Old 11-05-2021, 07:42 AM
 
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That is YOUR interpretation of the data. Let the non-opinion piece stand for itself. And I have two PhDs and a Masters. I didn't get them by being stupid. With all due respect, as "someone who studied economics", I can see why you are also "not rich" with whatever degree you earned. I wouldn't want you touching my portfolio because you are horribly biased. Get out of your head and give credit where it is due...Mr. Lifelong Democrat. BS. I hate liars.


Since you are such a "lifelong Democrat", also give 5 things Biden has done that you negatively affect you or your family's lives. Legitimate policy you can point to that affect you personally.

It's not MY interpretation I do this for a living. These are the actual statics and empirical data. You realize that right? There's many sides to the job numbers simply saying well we added 531,000 jobs is only a small piece of the puzzle. It doesn't tell the whole story. Regarding Joe Biden, his administration has been an absolute disaster. He can't even read a teleprompter anymore. Biden has failed with continued spikes in violent crime, the debacle in Afghanistan, chaos at the border, the continuing coronavirus pandemic, inflation in food and energy prices, and economic uncertainty which has lead to increases in the costs of goods and services that negate any semblance of the rising wages. Inflation makes the wage increases moot. You understand that don't you? Inflation is the biggest tax on the working poor and middle class. It is destructive. Bragging about rising wages right now is akin to bragging about being the tallest midget. If things don't change (and fast) 2022 is going to be a death knell to what used to be the Democratic Party one that I was proud to be a part of. Nothing some anonymous person on the internet says about me will change that. Being 'biased' is pretending that everything is fine right now. It absolutely is not and voters in Virginia and Georgia showed that this week.
 
Old 11-05-2021, 07:46 AM
 
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I have voted for Democratic candidates my whole life. I am a New Yorker who moved to Atlanta over 30 years ago so lets not try and paint me as some Right Wing local who is voting for Brian Kemp I'm not going to give you 5 things because I don't vote for Republican or Conservative candidates. You keep bringing this up about your rural family who votes Republican that is against their interests but the funny thing is people in urban areas vote against their best interests as well. Policies that promote perpetual poverty and continue the circle of poverty and things like failing schools, failing infrastructure, do nothing for anyone. It shouldn't be a goal to have more or be completely dependent upon social programs to survive. The goal should be to get off those programs not add more to it. You keep throwing the words bigot, racism, etc around did you look at Virginia? Republicans just elected a black lieutenant governor and a Hispanic attorney general. People like you are driving people like me who have never voted for a Republican (unless you count Zell Miller but when I voted for him he was a Democrat) away from the Democratic party. You claim to be neutral but you can't even see what is going on here? The Democratic party right now is doing NOTHING to make my life better they are making is worse. A lot of people are taking not and you can ignore it all you want but when Democratic candidates lose nationally in 2022 you will just come on here and blame racism, bigotry, etc. you won't blame the failed and insane policies of the current administration that is an absolute disaster for your average everyday working American. As I said earlier somewhere along the way in recent times the Democratic Party has transformed from one that cared about and supported the working class into one that is the wealthy elite and has more in common with someone that lives in The Hamptons, Nantucket, or Greeenwich than someone in the rust belt or southeast. It's perplexing for sure.



I don't want to get sucked into this. You don't know me and I don't know you. But you are wrong to state that 2022 is a lock with the middle. It is not. And whatever happens, happens. But it is not because all moderates and independents are looking for another run of Trump. I would vote for a monkey and a microphone before I support him or his candidates again...no matter how unstable a pandemic president may seem as he is getting things back on track. This Chicken Little scenario of the sky is falling is just not true and there is hard data to show that, given the situation, things are not as bad as Fox News wants to make it.
 
Old 11-05-2021, 08:00 AM
 
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I don't want to get sucked into this. You don't know me and I don't know you. But you are wrong to state that 2022 is a lock with the middle. It is not. And whatever happens, happens. But it is not because all moderates and independents are looking for another run of Trump. I would vote for a monkey and a microphone before I support him or his candidates again...no matter how unstable a pandemic president may seem as he is getting things back on track. This Chicken Little scenario of the sky is falling is just not true and there is hard data to show that, given the situation, things are not as bad as Fox News wants to make it.

Nobody mentioned Donald Trump. You are all over the place. None of this has to do with Trump or Fox News. People are getting fed up with bad policies that are impacting their lives. I specifically told you things could change but it better happen fast. The path the Democratic Party is on isn't sustainable and by proxy was rejected in Virginia and Georgia. This should be a wake up call to me, you, and everyone else. Name calling isn't going to change that.
 
Old 11-05-2021, 08:01 AM
 
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It's not MY interpretation I do this for a living. These are the actual statics and empirical data. You realize that right? There's many sides to the job numbers simply saying well we added 531,000 jobs is only a small piece of the puzzle. It doesn't tell the whole story. Regarding Joe Biden, his administration has been an absolute disaster. He can't even read a teleprompter anymore. Biden has failed with continued spikes in violent crime, the debacle in Afghanistan, chaos at the border, the continuing coronavirus pandemic, inflation in food and energy prices, and economic uncertainty which has lead to increases in the costs of goods and services that negate any semblance of the rising wages. Inflation makes the wage increases moot. You understand that don't you? Inflation is the biggest tax on the working poor and middle class. It is destructive. Bragging about rising wages right now is akin to bragging about being the tallest midget. If things don't change (and fast) 2022 is going to be a death knell to what used to be the Democratic Party one that I was proud to be a part of. Nothing some anonymous person on the internet says about me will change that. Being 'biased' is pretending that everything is fine right now. It absolutely is not and voters in Virginia and Georgia showed that this week.
Now, I know you are a liar. The man has barely been in office a year and you dog his policies, much of which has not been enacted. Biden implemented Trump's withdrawal from Afghanistan. If you have a problem with the optics, why the F are you not placing blame on the instigator of the policy? The "crisis" on the border was there before Biden took office. And please...do tell me how Biden is responsible for crime? Did we not have a spike in crime when Trump was in office? Before he left, crime was already at levels unseen for decades. He can't read a teleprompter anymore? Fine. He is getting old. So f'ing what? Are you some ageless miracle of conservative nature? At least he can read, which is more than I can say for your fat boy who tainted the White House with hamburgers and porn stars.

You are nothing more than an ideologue. No matter what Biden does, you will find a way to spin it. You should work for Fox News. You are biased and hateful, not on merit, but on simple "blue is bad and only bad" thinking. I guess you thought moving to Georgia you would find a bunch or racists such as yourself. Think again. This is not your grandma's state anymore and it will not be again. You have every right to vote for whoever you think is best, but let's not pretend it has anything to do with policy. You miss a white dominated society that is gone forever...and that must scare you to death. Good. It should. A dirty conscience and fear from the repercussions of historic hatred and terrorism should keep you up at night as the power shifts.

If Republicans cared about the people of Georgia, the red areas of this state would not be suffering from massive job loss, food desserts and lack of basic services like healthcare. They care about those people long enough for them to vote. And unlike Georgia, Virginia is a white majority state. That alone makes a difference in electoral possibility.

This new GOP is Trump. When Republicans get off Trump's fudingo, and put up people like Kinzinger or the like, I will be happy to vote for them. Not. Ever. Again. Until. Then.

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Old 11-05-2021, 08:16 AM
 
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Now, I know you are a liar. Biden implemented Trump's withdrawal from Afghanistan. If you have a problem with the optics, why the F are you not placing blame on the instigator of the policy? The "crisis" on the border was there before Biden took office. And please...do tell me how Biden is responsible for crime? Did we not have a spike in crime when Trump was in office. Before he left, crime was already at levels unseen for decades. He can't read a teleprompter anymore? Fine. He is getting old. So f'ing what? Are you some ageless miracle of conservative nature? At least he can read, which is more than I can say for your fat boy who tainted the White House with hamburgers and porn stars.

You are nothing more than an ideologue. No matter what Biden does, you will find a way to spin it. You should work for Fox News. You are biased and hateful, not on merit, but on simple "blue is bad and only bad" thinking. I guess you thought moving to Georgia you would find a bunch or racists such as yourself. Think again. This is not your grandma's state anymore and it will not be again. You have every right to vote for whoever you think is best, but let's not pretend it has anything to do with policy. You miss a white dominated society that is gone forever...and that must scare you to death. Good. It should. A dirty conscience and fear from the repercussions of historic hatred and terrorism should keep you up at night as the power shifts.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Blame race when you don't have anything else. Oldest trick in the book. My grandmother was a Holocaust survivor. My wife is Asian. My kids are mixed race. This is getting embarrassing for you. You keep mentioning 'bias' yet you are making claims that are not based in fact. Nowhere have I said I will be voting for Donald Trump. Ever. Trump is gone. Done. I don't like what I am seeing from the candidate I voted for and many others feel the same way ie: see Virginia and local elections in Georgia this week. All of these people can't be racist bigots like you claim. That simply defies logic.
 
Old 11-05-2021, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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I completely agree. The Republican Party needs new blood. The only good ones left are not running for re-election. Kinzinger should have been a party favorite.

I'll be voting outside the GOP for a while.
I’m curious about your thinking. I’m a republican, and I agree that new blood is always needed in both parties. But I’m a republican because of the core principals of the party, like small government and strictly following the constitution. I could never vote for a candidate who represents cradle to grave dependance on the government, no matter how much I personally disliked a republican candidate.

For example, look what a gem you have elected in the White House, because you didn’t like Trump as a person. Now we are dependent on foreign oil, have dead Americans in Afghanistan, and are a laughing stock In foreign countries.
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