2020 Census Results (to live in, money, pay)

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBrown

Lol, I didn't include Richmond Heights (which also saw an increase over estimated).... or Parma Heights or Middleburg Heights on the westside.

Or Mayfield Heights which actually saw the biggest percentage increase of all of them.

A lot of Heights cities for sure.

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by aries4118

Not at all. Probably, still, a lot of undercounting in ACK.

There is a large immigrant population on ACK. They had to build and open a new school in 2017 due to overcrowding and a surging student population.

I’m not sure I buy the whole “immigrants were undercounted” narrative.

Look atLawrence, Brockton, Quincy, Lynn.

Towns with huge immigrant populations all significantly underestimated compared to the official count.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by masssachoicetts

Not really. Every billionaire and ultra wealthy new yorker and bostonian picked up a property there in 2015-2019.. then in April when they came knocking on doors they surveyed that. Would not be surprised to see a decrease next decade. Similar trends happened in MV Ocean County NJ and OCMD

It’s not the billionaires and ultra-wealthy causing the increase. They are mostly considered part-timers and not counted in the census.

It’s the workers, service providers, and small business owners, living there year-round and sustaining the playground for the billionaires/ultra-wealthy, that are causing the increase.

Nantucket is very socio-economically diverse. I always describe it as “Framingham-in-the-Sea” or “Somerville-in-the-Sea.”

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

I’m not sure I buy the whole “immigrants were undercounted” narrative.

Look atLawrence, Brockton, Quincy, Lynn.

Towns with huge immigrant populations all significantly underestimated compared to the official count.

Ok.

[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

I’m not sure I buy the whole “immigrants were undercounted” narrative.

Look at Lawrence, Brockton, Quincy, Lynn.

Towns with huge immigrant populations all significantly underestimated compared to the official count.

Lawrence is 81.8% Latino. Lawrence is at least 40.6% foreign-born.

Lawrence had 89,143 people in 2020 after being estimated at 80,028 in 2019. It grew from 76,337 in 2010.

It's all way too murky too say anywhere was undercounted with any degree of certainty. It sucks, the data is so all over the place tbh.

[rnc2mbfl]

Originally Posted by Omahahonors

Well the Omaha metro area grew over 100,000 people and there are 110,000 people in unincorporated suburbs in Douglas county. Omaha's annexation is similar to Texas, but not as liberal. Omaha cannot go past county lines and cannot take in communities of more than 10k. In many states, these cities can do both.

That said. Omaha annexed enough neighborhoods to gain 32k people. 45k new people have moved into the city in the form of infill projects

Thanks. I noticed that city of Omaha grew more than its county, and that annexation number more than covers. That's interesting that Omaha can annex communities; are those incorporated communities?
Douglas County grew 67,416 to 584,526
Omaha grew 77,093 to 486,051
FWIW, there are less than 100,000 people in Douglas county that are not in Omaha city limits.

[MrDee12345]

I was interested in seeing how Worcester would compare to Providence:

Worcester, MA - 206, 518 (+14.1%)
Providence, RI - 190, 934 (+7.2%)

I think it can be somewhat subjectively argued that Providence is the more interesting city of the two, with its dense, walkable downtown, outdoor activities and better climate, but Worcester did significantly better this time around. I'm guessing it had something to do with the fact that Worcester is generally safer, but it also has more land to grow. One can live in Worcester and still live in a somewhat safe, suburban neighborhood with mediocre schools. I'm not sure if that can be done as comfortably in Providence.

[Somnifor]

The Twin Cities grew faster than all of California's major coastal metros. This probably hasn't happened for at least 100 years. I guess weather matters less than people think.

Minneapolis-St Paul MSA: 10.7%
Bay Area CSA: 9.4%
San Diego MSA: 6.6%
Los Angeles CSA: 4.2%

[Vincent_Adultman]

Originally Posted by mhays25

The census tract densities are interesting. A decade ago, Seattle topped out with one in the 50s, but growth and several split tracts resulted in some higher figures (rounding down)...124k, 79k, 58k, 55k, 55k, 53k, and a bunch in the 40s and 30s. The city-of stayed around 8,800/sm, as the count was below the estimates, so not the 9,000 I was hoping for.

These densities aren't enough for me. It takes broad areas over 50k to hit the best vibrancy in my mind (along with other uses), and we only hit that in scattered areas.

Which tract is 124K? I found 79K and the others but couldn't find the 124K.

Edit: Nevermind, I found it - student housing in the U District. Feels like a cheap way to hit 124K, especially since it's such a small tract.

[Omahahonors]

Originally Posted by rnc2mbfl

Thanks. I noticed that city of Omaha grew more than its county, and that annexation number more than covers. That's interesting that Omaha can annex communities; are those incorporated communities?
Douglas County grew 67,416 to 584,526
Omaha grew 77,093 to 486,051
FWIW, there are less than 100,000 people in Douglas county that are not in Omaha city limits.

Ah yeah. It did grow a little faster than the county. Good catch. The 32k annexed were unincorporated suburbs. The remaining towns in Douglas County are Bennington, Waterloo, Valley, Leshara and Ralston. All of which are tiny (except Ralston.

when Omaha annexes another town which has only happened twice in nearly 100 years, it is because that community starts annexing to cut off the big city. Ralston was the only town in the county to agree to stop annexation and omaha grew around the town in the 1970s.