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The news wasn't all bad for Cleveland, when you look at the metro gained 11,000 people from 2010 (adjusted up 40,000 from the 2019 estimates, which is right where I expected).
Unfortunately, it appears like blacks are still leaving the eastside at big numbers. But it looks like mostly staying in the county. The inner east side suburbs that are roughly between 40 to 90 percent black all saw big adjustments up from the 2019 estimate, with the exception of East Cleveland which was adjusted down by 18 percent to under 14,000 (yikes).
But look at these and you see the areas where blacks are moving into:
Maple Heights - 22,078 projected; 23,701 actual; gain of 1,623
Garfield Heights - 27,448 projected; 29,781 actual; gain of 2,333
Euclid - 46,550 projected; 49,692 actual (just missed getting back over 50,000); gain of 3,142
Cleveland Heights - 43,992 projected; 45,312 actual; gain of 1,320
Shaker Heights - 27,027 projected; 29,439 actual; gain of 2,412
Bedford Heights - 10,460 projected; 11,020 actual; gain of 560
Bedford - 12,457 projected; 13,149 actual; gain of 692
Warrensville Heights - 13,108 projected; 13,789 actual; gain of 681
University Heights - 12,797 projected; 13,914 actual; gain of 1,117
Once I get more time, I want to add up Cleveland and all the inner suburbs and see how it compares to 2010, but I'm guessing it will be relatively unchanged. Overall, the county has stabilized outside of the ultra high crime areas on the eastside of Cleveland and the ultra high crime city of East Cleveland.
I adore all the “Heights” names in the Cleveland area…
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NYC: +1,243,361
HOU: +1,201,824
ATL: +803,087
DC: +735,622
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Yes Miami and Atlanta should both surpass it within the next year or so. Philly had more people than the estimates expected.
While it will happen sooner or later, Philadelphia had impressive numbers, and held off Miami and Atlanta more than I thought. (And Atlanta will pass Miami first).
I remember reading several posts in the last 1-5 years about how Miami and Atlanta would blow Philadelphia away in the 2020 census. Proof that they were wrong, and clear that Philadelphia is a healthy and in-demand metro area.
(Good news for all, I was just making a small point )
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If your point is only that Fairfax is smaller than Wake, sure, that is true. If your point is Wake gained 230,000 people solely because it had more room, that is false. Raleigh alone, at less than half the size of Fairfax, gained roughly the same amount of people. There were other factors at play.
No, my point wasn't that Wake gained more people because it had more room. It was that Fairfax didn't gain a lot of people because it is pretty much out of room. People moving to NoVA are moving beyond Fairfax County because Fairfax is already built out. They have moved on to Loudoun, Prince William, and beyond. Loudoun went from 312k to 420k in ten years. That is phenomenal growth. Prince William went from 400k to 480k. Both grew more than Fairfax which is a much bigger population-wise (and closer-in) county because there really isn't much land left to build on in Fairfax. So while the population size is similar between Wake and Fairfax, Fairfax is really limited on how much more it can grow unless it starts to become more urban like neighboring Arlington and builds up (which is starting to happen in Tysons).
For sure and these are also areas many of the people from rural areas are moving to. Anything over 100k is going to feel like a big city if you're coming from a town of less than 10,000. On the flip side, depending on how much WFH is here to stay I think many of these small towns that are less than two hours from a major city will start to grow again and gain more amenities. They have to be in economically strong areas or states but I can see it happening.
In order to attract many remote "knowledge workers", small towns are going to need (at a bare minimum) such amenities as high speed internet, grocery stores with a good selection, schools that offer a quality educational experience that is up to date with 21st century standards, and attractive recreational facilities. I'm sure some communities will evolve in such a direction in the 2020s and beyond but many will fall short and continue to languish.
For those without pre-existing ties in such places, it's hard to see people choosing rural west Tennessee over suburban Nashville, for example, or an agricultural community in central Nebraska over the Omaha area.
Well the Omaha metro area grew over 100,000 people and there are 110,000 people in unincorporated suburbs in Douglas county. Omaha's annexation is similar to Texas, but not as liberal. Omaha cannot go past county lines and cannot take in communities of more than 10k. In many states, these cities can do both.
That said. Omaha annexed enough neighborhoods to gain 32k people. 45k new people have moved into the city in the form of infill projects
While it will happen sooner or later, Philadelphia had impressive numbers, and held off Miami and Atlanta more than I thought. (And Atlanta will pass Miami first).
I remember reading several posts in the last 1-5 years about how Miami and Atlanta would blow Philadelphia away in the 2020 census. Proof that they were wrong, and clear that Philadelphia is a healthy and in-demand metro area.
(Good news for all, I was just making a small point )
Miami will pass Philly metro area population within 2 years.
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