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View Poll Results: Are the following sandwiches, or not sandwiches? Please post on thread as well (so I see responses)
Samosas 3 37.50%
Empanadas 3 37.50%
Tacos 3 37.50%
Bagel & Lox 8 100.00%
Chimichangas 2 25.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 8. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-27-2024, 10:21 PM
 
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None of them are sandwiches.

 
Old 05-29-2024, 09:23 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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None of them can be considered a sandwich. Maybe the bagel and lox could pass as an "open faced" sandwich, but even that is a stretch. A sandwich is two pieces of bread with a filling between them. Strictly speaking even a sub, cheesesteak or Po' boy is not a sandwich, hence their own unique names.
 
Old 05-29-2024, 09:53 AM
 
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None of them can be considered a sandwich. Maybe the bagel and lox could pass as an "open faced" sandwich, but even that is a stretch. A sandwich is two pieces of bread with a filling between them. Strictly speaking even a sub, cheesesteak or Po' boy is not a sandwich, hence their own unique names.
Isn’t that contradictory?
 
Old 05-29-2024, 10:02 AM
 
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Per Igor's definition (with which I agree)...

A hamburger in a hamburger bun is a sandwich, but a hot dog in a hot dog bun is not a sandwich.
none considered a sandwich in the UK... a sandwich is two slices of bread with whatever inside.. John Montagu
The sandwich, as we know it, is often credited to John Montagu, the 4th Earl of Sandwich. Legend has it that during a prolonged gambling session, the Earl requested meat tucked between two pieces of bread to eat without interrupting his game. The convenience of this meal led to its eponymous name.
 
Old 05-29-2024, 11:03 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Isn’t that contradictory?
No, a bun opened up but hinged is not two slices of bread.
 
Old 05-29-2024, 12:43 PM
 
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No, a bun opened up but hinged is not two slices of bread.
That’s certainly not a universal condition (hinged bun), and in fact many such sandwiches are prepared with the “hoagie” roll completely sliced through, making two pieces of bread.

But hey, if you believe that the way the bread is cut fundamentally changes something from sandwich to not sandwich, who am I to argue?

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Old 05-29-2024, 02:04 PM
 
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That’s certainly not a universal condition (hinged bun), and in fact many such sandwiches are prepared with the “hoagie” roll completely sliced through, making two pieces of bread.

But hey, if you believe that the way the bread is cut fundamentally changes something from sandwich to not sandwich, who am I to argue?
I'm on the fence about this. If a hot dog is not a sandwich, but you cut the bun completely in two, does it become a sandwich? My gut feeling is that it is not a sandwich either way, but I'm not sure why.

On the other hand, I definitely heard my dad refer to a hamburger as a "sandwich" back in the day.
 
Old 05-29-2024, 03:39 PM
 
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I'm on the fence about this. If a hot dog is not a sandwich, but you cut the bun completely in two, does it become a sandwich? My gut feeling is that it is not a sandwich either way, but I'm not sure why.
I posted about this upthread. My position is that if something is similar to a sandwich, but occupies some other classification that’s more appropriate, I will tend to classify it the other thing.

While a hot dog is similar to a sandwich, I believe that “hot dog” as its own unique classification is more appropriate. I don’t think that many people would classify a sandwich as a hot dog (if it was on bread that wasn’t completely sliced through). And I also don’t the believe that the opposite (classifying a hot dog as a sandwich) is appropriate either.

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On the other hand, I definitely heard my dad refer to a hamburger as a "sandwich" back in the day.
Also addressed upthread. Google “Louis Lunch” for more info. My feelings on this one is that “Hamburger” is a more correct (and more universal) classification.
 
Old 05-29-2024, 04:22 PM
 
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none considered a sandwich in the UK... a sandwich is two slices of bread with whatever inside...
Yes, the British and the Americans are different. I offer up the British concept of pudding versus the American concept of pudding as one very distinct difference.
 
Old Today, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Yes, the British and the Americans are different. I offer up the British concept of pudding versus the American concept of pudding as one very distinct difference.


I think pudding can mean either a a cooked sweet dish served after the main course of a meal such as
'a rice pudding' or 'bread and butter pudding' in the UK, and the US,.

However as well as a sweet pudding in the UK, a pudding may also refer to a savoury steamed dish made with suet and flour such as 'a steak and kidney pudding' or even a baked pudding made from a batter of eggs, flour, and milk or water such as a Yorkshire Pudding which are served with meat rather than as a dessert.

Britain like the US does eat a considerable amount of sandwiches, and when the British think of a sandwich it's generally between two slices of bread or in a French baguette, which is often referred to as a sub, hoagie, grinder etc in the US.

There are different types of bread that can constitute a sandwich, and I would include wraps (tortillas) and bagels as sandwiches, although bagels are sometimes referred to as beigels in the UK and the pronunciation can be different, and this apparently depends on different Jewish communities and where they settled.

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Which do you say, bagel or beigel? For the uninitiated, who have probably already given up, these variations are pronounced “baygel” and “bye-gal”. The former is considered more “westernised”, the latter more faithful to how it might have been said in Yiddish, though with a slight cockney twinge. Either way, your choice of noun tells you something quite important about your Anglo-Jewish identity.

Whether you say bagel or beigel depends on what kind of Jew you are - Jewish Chronicle

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