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Are you not following the discussion? I'll try to spell it out for you very slowly.
The way we think about things, whether it be tattoos, rollercoasters, or skydiving, is a product of our own personal experiences with those things. Now, you call it narrow minded to base our reactions to things on past personal experiences. I submit that is the only logical route TO take.
If you have negative experiences with something, you will have a negative reaction. If you have a positive experience, then you will have a positive reaction.
I have had negative experiences involving people who had tattoos, so of course I would have a negative reaction to it. I have had negative experiences with roller coasters also--that does not mean that everyone else has. They must make their own "judgements" based on their own experiences. They might happen to like rollercoasters.
Because I don't, doesn't mean that they also must dislike them, but their experiences does not mean that I must like them either. It is all based on personal experience. I can't give you any sort of reaction to how I would feel about skydiving as I have never had ANY experience with it, one way or the other. I have no frame of reference.
But with tattoos, I do have a frame of reference to base my reactions on.
Are you not following the discussion? I'll try to spell it out for you very slowly.
The way we think about things, whether it be tattoos, rollercoasters, or skydiving, is a product of our own personal experiences with those things. Now, you call it narrow minded to base our reactions to things on past personal experiences. I submit that is the only logical route TO take.
If you have negative experiences with something, you will have a negative reaction. If you have a positive experience, then you will have a positive reaction.
I have had negative experiences involving people who had tattoos, so of course I would have a negative reaction to it. I have had negative experiences with roller coasters also--that does not mean that everyone else has. They must make their own "judgements" based on their own experiences. They might happen to like rollercoasters.
Because I don't, doesn't mean that they also must dislike them, but their experiences does not mean that I must like them either. It is all based on personal experience. I can't give you any sort of reaction to how I would feel about skydiving as I have never had ANY experience with it, one way or the other. I have no frame of reference.
But with tattoos, I do have a frame of reference to base my reactions on.
TKramar - I reject your initial premise. Personal experience is only a basis for action when one is too narrow minded to view the facts.
Do research. Analyze the situation dispassionately and make decisions from there. Making decisions based on experience is nothing short of a knee-jerk reaction to a situation. Approach problems by asking if it makes sense, not in a personal way (personal opinions are meaningless in the absence of fact), but in a logical way. If you cannot prove your opinion through outside sources, no matter how strongly you feel, you are wrong.
There are no facts available when one's likes or dislikes are concerned.
The only fact that matters is whether you like it, or don't. You can never know if you like skydiving until you have done it. No matter how much research you do.
You could read for days about driving cars, and find--once you've gotten behind the wheel, that you don't like it. Even though your best friend loves it.
Which of you is right? Well...both of you are. You don't like it, he or she does.
There are no facts available when one's likes or dislikes are concerned.
The only fact that matters is whether you like it, or don't. You can never know if you like skydiving until you have done it. No matter how much research you do.
You could read for days about driving cars, and find--once you've gotten behind the wheel, that you don't like it. Even though your best friend loves it.
Which of you is right? Well...both of you are. You don't like it, he or she does.
We might have to agree to disagree.
We clearly will never see eye to eye.
Please just try to unlearn some of your prejudices. That is something anyone can and should do.
This is my last post in this thread. If you want to keep talking, PM me.
Whew! I have attempted to read thru all of the comments posted on this thread and there are obviously some very strong feelings attached to this topic--both sides. Decided to add my comments and will do so hoping to not offend anyone.
I am female & have 4 kids--23 being the oldest--so that gives some idea of my age. In the day that I grew up tatoos were seen mostly on guys who returned from the military. Rightly or wrongly, but admittedly, yes, if you sported a tatoo and it didn't come as a result of your days in the service, there was indeed a certain stigma attached to having a tatoo. Unfortunately, having a tatoo did kind of knock you down a bit in social status.
I am an esthetician (skin care specialist) and electrologist (permanent hair removal)--so I know a lot about skin.....I don't care what 99% of you who have tatoos say--as your body (skin) ages, your tatoo will not be the same "art" you considered it to be when you got it. This applies no matter if you are 60 when you got your first one or 20. Everyone who denies this obvious fact is doing him/herself an injustice.
The aging process is still at this time unavoidable. Your skin will dry out. Your skin will wrinkle. Your skin will sag. Your skin will develop age spots and other things that go along with aging. No way around this--therefore, that tatoo is gonna go "with the flow" so to speak.
I will not do permanent make-up on anyone because I personally do not believe in it...It, like a tatoo is forever. Your lips and eyes are not going to stay the same as when you get that ink injected. Permanent make-up can and does have less than desirable consequences. A lady at my post office got lip liner done and she looks ridiculous!!! She looks like a duck and had a color put on that is NOT a complimentary color for her skin tone. Yea, she had the eyliner done too. Those thick black lines look stupid now--just wait till you age a few years and you look like you've been made up to act in Dawn of the Dead. Color fades--it doesn't stay the same forever--whether this is a tatoo or permanent make-up.
I guess I don't understand how one can make such a permanent, life-long choice to do such a thing to your body. You will not be the same person 5, 10, 20, & 50 years down the road as you were when you decided to alter your body. If you got small tatoos--I suppose easier to live with. If you get the whole body art thing--you are kinda screwed when you decide you might not like it anymore.
You think it was time consuming and expensive to get that tatoo so you could make a statement to yourself or the world--wait till you want to make a different statement to the world and you don't want that tatoo any longer. It's going to hurt like hell and cost a whole lot more money and time trying to get rid of what you no longer desire, than it did to get it. As of now, some of the inks cannot be permanently removed--only lightened. Maybe we will have the technology down the road, but we do not now.
Tatoos may be here forever, but make no mistake about it when you are told that it is a fad, phase, whatever. Just like every other "NOW" thing that we have gone thru from one generation to the next, this tatoo generation will also fade and come to pass. You can deny it all you want, but there is virtually no fashion statement that has lasted forever.
The tatoos that really crack me up are the boyfriend/girfriend or husband/wife ones. What happens when the love dies? I sure don't want to be making love to someone wearing the name or initials of the ex...Talk about a mood killer!!!
I sometimes have enough trouble deciding what I want to wear without trying to figure out if it clashes with my body art--that's why we have neutral skin color. You can change it whenever you want with the clothes you put over it. Hell, you can't even "paint over" a tatoo like you can a wall.
I don't care what people do but I find them unattractive, I don't think I could date a girl with a tattoo unless it was a small one on her ankle or something. To each their own
I know I'm old school and I adimit it.
I don't like piercing or "body art"
I don't consider a small tattoo as body art.
A small discreet tattoo I have no problem with. But when a person covers every exposed body surface with "body art" then that is trashy looking to me.
I have no problem with women piercing their ears to wear ear rings.
But when it comes to tongues, lips, eyelids, cheeks, noses, and, well the lower body parts, that is repulsive to me.
But that's just me.
To each their own. Them trying to impress themselves to gain some kind of recognition doesn't impress me at all. I just consider it an admission of lack of self worth who are trying to make up for their own lack of self confidence and have to put on a show to be noticed instead of good deeds getting them recognition.
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