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I get into this (circular) argument all the time, but...
They "feel more confident in themselves wearing makeup" because they don't feel good enough without it. Because of the anticipated negative judgments of OTHERS. Therefore, they're wearing it for OTHERS and not THEMSELVES. If no one was going to see them, they likely wouldn't bother for THEMSELVES. Unless you're looking at a mirror, you can't see yourself, so obviously it's for effect. And I believe it's a sad commentary that a woman can't "feel good about herself" without wearing a mask. Just my opinion.
I'll allow that I've reached the age where I'd look better with it that without it, but I don't feel "bad" about myself without it, and I wish other women wouldn't, either.
Very true.
I'm aging and I'm sure makeup could make me or some of my features look better but I really don't care what others think I feel good when I'm showered and cleaned up
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Originally Posted by Robino1
Unfortunately how we look when going into meetings or at workplaces is a direct correlation on how we are perceived.
And isn't that sad. Just goes to show how so many get brainwashed by advertising and/or trends of who does what first.
Personally, I wear makeup not because of low self esteem, but because it's a self respect thing. Because I have respect for myself, I want the world to see a polished version of myself. It's also why I style my hair and don't wear cheap, sloppy, or ill-fitting clothes.
Are you suggesting that women who don't wear make up don't have self-respect? You're offended that someone might say wearing make up is a sign of low self esteem, but then you are all in for insulting women who make a different choice than you do.
How about we all acknowledge that wearing make up has little to do with self respect or self esteem and is simply something that all women have the right to make their own choices about?
Are you suggesting that women who don't wear make up don't have self-respect? You're offended that someone might say wearing make up is a sign of low self esteem, but then you are all in for insulting women who make a different choice than you do.
How about we all acknowledge that wearing make up has little to do with self respect or self esteem and is simply something that all women have the right to make their own choices about?
If anything, women who don't wear makeup have MORE self-respect and confidence; we feel unapologetically adequate in our natural states. Sure, we could look "better" with it (arguably), but we're not tied up in knots about impressing others (especially strangers)...
The dependence on makeup, hair dye, and expensive "fashionable" clothing is just more Madison Avenue programming...
Are you suggesting that women who don't wear make up don't have self-respect? You're offended that someone might say wearing make up is a sign of low self esteem, but then you are all in for insulting women who make a different choice than you do.
How about we all acknowledge that wearing make up has little to do with self respect or self esteem and is simply something that all women have the right to make their own choices about?
Did you miss the very first word of the post? "Personally." For me. YMMV. It has no bearing on anyone else. Nor does it color my view of anyone else. I don't care what anyone else does. FOR ME, it's a matter of self respect.
And where did I say I was offended that someone might say wearing makeup is a sign of low self esteem? Perhaps you could stop putting words in my mouth?
People should adorn themselves in a way that allows them to be comfortable and confident confronting the world. No judgement on if that power suit includes mascara, lipstick, panty hose, yoga pants, jeans, a blazer, heels or a t-shirt.
Obviously not everything is appropriate for every scenario, but wearing or not wearing makeup doesn’t reflect anything other than using whatever tools you have in your toolbox.
My 67 year old wife says she's never worn any make up. Never saw a need for it. Her daughters tried to get her to let them "make her up" for our wedding and she told them to ask me if I wanted them to. I said no. She looks fine just the way she is.
I do have a funny tale about women and make up. When we got married I went to church with ex#2 for a while before going to another. She belonged to an independent Baptist and the pastor was preaching one Sunday about women's make up, dresses,etc. He said "There's nothing wrong with a little make up. Every old barn needs a new coat of paint every now and then." That's when we ALL heard his wife ask "Who are you calling an old barn?"
People should adorn themselves in a way that allows them to be comfortable and confident confronting the world. No judgement on if that power suit includes mascara, lipstick, panty hose, yoga pants, jeans, a blazer, heels or a t-shirt.
Obviously not everything is appropriate for every scenario, but wearing or not wearing makeup doesn’t reflect anything other than using whatever tools you have in your toolbox.
Agreed, though I'm kind of curious to know how many of the women who don't ever wear makeup also don't color their hair--does that kind of "naturalness" go hand in hand, or is it a whole different thing?
Agreed, though I'm kind of curious to know how many of the women who don't ever wear makeup also don't color their hair--does that kind of "naturalness" go hand in hand, or is it a whole different thing?
It's a very slippery slope...if you don't wear makeup...why should you color your hair? Or wear anything other than the cheapest flip flops/sneakers? Or wear anything other than walmart sweatshirts and sweatpants?
We all rationalize that whatever we do PERSONALLY is for the most commendable reasons and if anyone else does something differently it's because they feel bad about themselves or are trying too hard because they are jealous of others...basically women being catty to other women.
I'll wear whatever makeup, shoes and clothes I want to, without apology to anyone.
Agreed, though I'm kind of curious to know how many of the women who don't ever wear makeup also don't color their hair--does that kind of "naturalness" go hand in hand, or is it a whole different thing?
For some that would go hand in hand. With or without makeup I feel I would look "pretty much" the same. If I had let my hair go I would have been very grey in my 30's. For me that would have made me feel very old before my time although I do hate dyeing it. My MIL is 86 and still dyes her hair. Of course it looks very unnatural. There is no way I will continue with that PITA job for that long, lol. I imagine I will stop dyeing my hair in my early 60's.
So yeah looks like the advertisers got to me about my hair
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I feel good when I'm showered and cleaned up
