Study says women lose their looks at 35 years old (guys, girl, beauty)

[Miaiam]

Imo self confidence is much harder to find in famous women than beauty.
Most people who go to some crazy extent regarding beauty treatments- so much so after a while they just look like a completely different person! - might achieve "beauty" but lack self confidence. So far there is not enough plastic surgery for that...

Today we see many "fashion icons" (icons to who?)who just try too hard to impress... and it totally shows it, it is just completely artificial.

Women like Jackie Kennedy or Audrey Hepburn had natural, effortless elegance and beauty.

Today it seems one either looks ogreish or tries so hard one ends up looking like a cartoon character.

Not to mention the concept of beautiful, which has always been subjective, has gone seriously downhill in the past decade or so.

[lemon&lime]

Jackie Kennedy and Audrey Hepburn are icons of a previous era, not as relevant to a modern discussion on age related beauty issues. There is a lot of hate on this thread for Suzanne Somers, but Robin McGraw, Dr. Phil's wife, is saying a lot of the same things.

Robin has promoted herself as someone who puts "family first" but is also very involved in the fight against aging:

[maciesmom]

I don't think anyone is "hating" on Suzanne Somers....they just don't agree with you that she's an example to be admired WRT "anti-aging". That isn't how most of us want to look.

[lemon&lime]

Robin McGraw is a decade younger and on a similar path.....plastic surgery enhanced, uses bioidentical hormones. What's the difference? That Suzanne is older and should have gone on to the grandma phase?
From all I've read Suzanne Somers is COMPLETELY devoted to her family and has been married to the same man for over 30 years. She is an example imo. And I don't get all the face melting off plastic surgery stuff either. She's recently gone in and had some unfortunate work done but I'm not going to knock her whole brand just because of that.

Originally Posted by maciesmom

I don't think anyone is "hating" on Suzanne Somers....they just don't agree with you that she's an example to be admired WRT "anti-aging". That isn't how most of us want to look.

[maciesmom]

Originally Posted by lemon&lime

Robin McGraw is a decade younger and on a similar path.....plastic surgery enhanced, uses bioidentical hormones. What's the difference? That Suzanne is older and should have gone on to the grandma phase?
From all I've read Suzanne Somers is COMPLETELY devoted to her family and has been married to the same man for over 30 years. She is an example imo. And I don't get all the face melting off plastic surgery stuff either. She's recently gone in and had some unfortunate work done but I'm not going to knock her whole brand just because of that.

IDK what the difference is since I haven't read her book (and don't plan to - Robin McGraw doesn't intrigue me nor do I really care what she looks like. Other than being married to Dr. Phil what's so special about her?). People here have commmented about Suzanne Somers simply because you brought her up as the gold standard of anti-aging.

[lemon&lime]

Robin is on her heels. Anti aged stars are all over Hollywood, but Suzanne has devoted herself to the hormonal aspect of it and that is why I give her so much respect. She's gone out on a limb.

Originally Posted by maciesmom

IDK what the difference is since I haven't read her book (and don't plan to - Robin McGraw doesn't intrigue me nor do I really care what she looks like. Other than being married to Dr. Phil what's so special about her?). People here have commmented about Suzanne Somers simply because you brought her up as the gold standard of anti-aging.

[DewDropInn]

Originally Posted by lemon&lime

Suzanne has devoted herself to the hormonal aspect of it

Which freaks out a heck of a lot of MDs. Whom, I'm guessing, have more of an education on the subject that Suzanne and Mr. Hamel.

[latetotheparty]

Originally Posted by personne

I was reading this thread (I rarely post but read regularly, afraid of my bad english not being understood) and I have a question for you.

I was wondering whether this was not a very "american" trend. I don't mean that in a bad way, just a cultural thing, that a woman is really beautiful when she's very young, almost "untouched".

Here, (in the media and real life), women are considered to be at the prime of their beauty between age 30/45 (even 50). Think Juliette Binoche, Laetitia Casta, Sophie Marceau, Melissa Theuriau, Nathalie Baye, etc.

Men (and women) seem to think that beyond looks, what is really sexually attractive is a women who is a woman (ie not a young girl) and has lived, loved and is happy with who she is. I don't know about you but at age 20, I had no idea who I was and was much more insecure about myself. That is not what I consider attractive.

The few wrinkles I have, I have earned and as they (along with the experience they symbolize) gave me a confidence that I think is more attractive.

Anyway, do you relate with what I'm trying to say, even if badly? Is this a cultural difference? Or am I totally mistaken?

your English is JUST FINE and yes... I completely get what you are saying.....

Originally Posted by lemon&lime

Even Nicole Kidman seems to have given up the ultra Botoxed look.....I've done quite a bit of research in to alternative anti aging skin care the last few years & for sure anti aging is a huge trend....all the stars go to special facialists, follow specialized diets etc in addition to injectables. There is a lot the average person can do for themselves, instead of aging naturally & looking older because of it.

aging naturally and looking older because of it?? seems to me you are just trying desperately to deny the natural order of things.... and that is very sad and shallow, imo.....

in reading this thread, i noticed a sort of disconnect in generations.... those of us closer to my own age (50) are accepting of ourselves as we are..... most of those in the <35 or even <40 age groups are still concerned with looking younger than their real chronological age......

me personally.... i wouldn't trade the self knowledge, self confidence and yes, wisdom, that i have gained over the years, and didn't really discover until i got into my 40's, for anything.... would i like to have the figure i had at 25?? yeah.... that would be nice.... but its not reality.... and neither is spending a fortune in money and time striving to look younger than your real age.....

[Miaiam]

Originally Posted by personne

I was reading this thread (I rarely post but read regularly, afraid of my bad english not being understood) and I have a question for you.

I was wondering whether this was not a very "american" trend. I don't mean that in a bad way, just a cultural thing, that a woman is really beautiful when she's very young, almost "untouched".

Here, (in the media and real life), women are considered to be at the prime of their beauty between age 30/45 (even 50). Think Juliette Binoche, Laetitia Casta, Sophie Marceau, Melissa Theuriau, Nathalie Baye, etc.

Men (and women) seem to think that beyond looks, what is really sexually attractive is a women who is a woman (ie not a young girl) and has lived, loved and is happy with who she is. I don't know about you but at age 20, I had no idea who I was and was much more insecure about myself. That is not what I consider attractive.

The few wrinkles I have, I have earned and as they (along with the experience they symbolize) gave me a confidence that I think is more attractive.

Anyway, do you relate with what I'm trying to say, even if badly? Is this a cultural difference? Or am I totally mistaken?

Best. Post. Period.

[lemon&lime]

The economy has changed and so have the times. You do what you have to do to stay relevant..... no one wants to be thought of anymore as old, or even older..... just totally passe.
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