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Old 08-26-2010, 07:58 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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If a company that produces chairs says "these are good up to 200 lb." and a 350 lb. person uses them, why is it such a surprise if they collapse? Of course it happens.
If a salon really has chairs rated for only 200 pounds and allows a customer who is obviously much heavier to use them, the salon is setting itself up to be sued. Eventually one will break and someone will be injured. That's just stupid. Any company that does something so reckless deserves to go out of business. Instead of charging a woman $5 extra, they should have refused her business for safety reasons. $5 isn't going to help them when an injured person sues for $30,000 due to a torn rotor cuff.
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Old 08-26-2010, 08:19 AM
 
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1) Its Georgia so I'm pretty sure that they will have to charge a majority of their customers the extra $5.

2) These Asian owned nail salons are very often greedy (hence the added $5 fat fee) and rude (talking about customers in front of them in their own language).

3) If people don't like how they (and most of the other similar nail salons) run their businesses, then don't patronize them and they will go out of business.....or they will learn to adapt to better customer service and business practices.
Agreed. One place I would go for a blow out. Each time I went, the price was different. Then when I WOULD question them, they would start gabbing in Asian. Anyway, I got fed up, stopped going and also stopped tipping, which is not required. They CHASED ME OUT OF THE SALON, saying miss, miss, bc I didn't tip the shampoo girl. Who does that? I kept walking like I didn't even hear them.
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Old 08-26-2010, 08:44 AM
 
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Also if you think that a seat or other piece of furniture cannot be damaged or even destroyed by someone who is obese in a matter of minutes, please think again. I have had to replace kitchen chairs and patio chairs due to obese friends sitting in them. In one case one sat down and 5 minutes later the chair collapsed. I don't buy sturdier chairs because my BF and I are both under 200 lbs...why should we buy furniture rated for up to nearly 3x my own body weight because we have obese friends who visit occasionally? They didn't reimburse me for the furniture they damaged/destroyed either. I just sucked it up and replaced the chairs.

I suspect - you may not have to worry about your obese "friends" destroying your furniture much longer.
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Old 08-26-2010, 10:33 AM
 
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If a salon really has chairs rated for only 200 pounds and allows a customer who is obviously much heavier to use them, the salon is setting itself up to be sued. Eventually one will break and someone will be injured. That's just stupid. Any company that does something so reckless deserves to go out of business. Instead of charging a woman $5 extra, they should have refused her business for safety reasons. $5 isn't going to help them when an injured person sues for $30,000 due to a torn rotor cuff.
Yes, but this seems one of those cheap places with greedy owners. Not very reasonable I guess, and probably willing to take risks for pennies.
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Old 08-26-2010, 10:44 AM
 
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I should not have to pay for other people's elective problems when it comes to the vanity industry. Also insurance does not cover "abuse/misuse". If the furniture is coded to a certain weight then anything over that is misuse. With those salon chairs she would not break them the way a folding chair does but those items have a lifetime of PPI impact and you factor that into your business plan of the cost of operations. You pay more when you get your hair done when its long. Should people with short hair make up the cost for that too? Its business.

So basically the right plan: thin people pay to make up for fat people not caring/diseases and to make business owners change their business plans because people won't take care of a weight problem? Sounds a little insane.

If you have PCOS you should not be exposing yourself to salon chemical crap anyway. Its not good for it. Seriously. Just skip it all until you get finished with you loss.


I would love to see how greedy any of you would be running your own business. Get real. New business are usually operating in debt for at least 2 years from the start up. AT LEAST.

If you really want to know what the asian girls are saying just pay attention. Its really not that hard to start to understand a different language. ALL salon girls are catty. Stop being racists. It makes me sick.
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Old 08-26-2010, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You know, I think that was a lousy, sneaky business practice by the salon owner. Skanky.

But I think it's hilarious that we focus so much on discrimination against the obese...I think to continuously absolve them of more and more responsibility and to avert attention from the fact that most of them (yes, yes, there are exceptions) really need to do something about their weight.
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Old 08-26-2010, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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If a salon really has chairs rated for only 200 pounds and allows a customer who is obviously much heavier to use them, the salon is setting itself up to be sued. Eventually one will break and someone will be injured. That's just stupid. Any company that does something so reckless deserves to go out of business. Instead of charging a woman $5 extra, they should have refused her business for safety reasons. $5 isn't going to help them when an injured person sues for $30,000 due to a torn rotor cuff.
The second they refused her business for being too fat for the chairs, there would have been ANOTHER article and possibly a lawsuit. You can't win. The airlines have learned that.
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Old 08-26-2010, 10:58 AM
 
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The second they refused her business for being too fat for the chairs, there would have been ANOTHER article and possibly a lawsuit. You can't win. The airlines have learned that.
Great point!

If you want the prices quoted before you sit thats the customer's responsibility, not the salon. That is why those high end expensive salons have "free consults" (optional at customer REQUEST) before they even get to work.
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Old 08-26-2010, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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You know, I think that was a lousy, sneaky business practice by the salon owner. Skanky.

But I think it's hilarious that we focus so much on discrimination against the obese...I think to continuously absolve them of more and more responsibility and to avert attention from the fact that most of them (yes, yes, there are exceptions) really need to do something about their weight.
I'll be honest, I'm overweight, yet for me, this situation isn't so much abut weight as it is horrible business practices. if a business wants to charge overweight customers more, fine, but you better have a dang good reason for doing so and be able to implement such a rule w/ integrity. I don't have a problem, for example, w/ airlines charging obese passengers extra fr another seat if they can't fit. but then again, airlines tell you of these fees before hand. if a salon wants to charge obese people extra, fine. just say so before hand and I'll just avoid those places (or cough up the extra fee if it's a nicer place and I deemed the quality of services worth it). there are some people out there that wants to see "fat/size discrimination" right up there w/ racial discrimination, sexual and sexual orientation discrimination, etc. I think that would be ridiculous and disagree. the world doesn't need to coddle the obese.

but again, this isn't really about this woman being overweight, this is about questionable business practices and whether what happened to this woman was fair. like I said before, such a fee, assuming it was being implemented fairly (I doubt it) could be enforced on people who aren't even technically overweight (pregnant women and muscular people, for example)
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Old 08-26-2010, 11:02 AM
 
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The second they refused her business for being too fat for the chairs, there would have been ANOTHER article and possibly a lawsuit. You can't win. The airlines have learned that.
Sure, people can sue. That doesn't mean they will win. How can someone be forced to do something negligent and put someone else in danger? This what umbrella policies are for. I have one.
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