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Old 12-28-2009, 10:42 AM
 
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I have posted here about my families desire to move to Sweden from the US. I wanted to know if the policies of the Swedish government accurately represent the feelings of Swedish citizens. Is the government more liberal or conservative than the residents of the country? Is there a shift going on in the country one way or another.

I have read about immigration issues and there seems to be some unease with people about Muslim immigrants. I have read about this in many European countries and in the US it is a problem as well. Mosques have been tagged with graffiti or burned down. I live in the south however and the KKK still holds rallies here.

I guess I just want to make sure that Sweden isn't in any danger of opening one of these any time soon

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Old 12-28-2009, 12:53 PM
 
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I have posted here about my families desire to move to Sweden from the US. I wanted to know if the policies of the Swedish government accurately represent the feelings of Swedish citizens. Is the government more liberal or conservative than the residents of the country? Is there a shift going on in the country one way or another.

I have read about immigration issues and there seems to be some unease with people about Muslim immigrants. I have read about this in many European countries and in the US it is a problem as well. Mosques have been tagged with graffiti or burned down. I live in the south however and the KKK still holds rallies here.

I guess I just want to make sure that Sweden isn't in any danger of opening one of these any time soon
Swedish People have no issues with immigrants that adapt somewhat to the Swedish lifestyle and follow the Swedish laws and more importantly, learn how to speak Swedish. Just like here in the US I guess.
There are racism but that's everywhere. There is no groups like the KKK in Sweden.
The people that burn down mosques are most likely some drunk skinheads.
No worries.
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Sweden
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We have a right wing government right now,but I really hope that will change next fall.
This country has really got much worse in the last 10-15 years.
And I blame both the leftist and rightist govenments.
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Old 12-28-2009, 05:06 PM
 
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Ok, when you say right wing I get images of Sarah palin loving crazies holding signs that say " obamacare is socia lism." (actual sign spelled as two words). What does right wing mean in Sweden?

How do you think Sweden has gotten worse?

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Old 12-28-2009, 05:33 PM
 
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Ok, when you say right wing I get images of Sarah palin loving crazies holding signs that say " obamacare is socia lism." (actual sign spelled as two words). What does right wing mean in Sweden?
Right wing mean that they hold "conservative" political ideas. (Conservative in Sweden is somewhat different from what is considered conservative in the US, though, due to different histories and political systems, etc.)
Think about the political debates in the US, and how the left and the right talks bad about the other...

It's not comparable to Sweden. The whole idea of politicians acting like angry, bullying kids is foreign to us. Here, a bad "political argument" consists pretty much of "he's wrong because his idea is incorrect, and I'm right". I can't recall ever hearing a politician use a "bad" word to describe the opponent. They're supposed to be proffesionals, or we won't vote for them (who wants a kindergarten group running the country?)


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How do you think Sweden has gotten worse?
They've sold out so much of our governmentaly owned properties - against the will of the people. Sweden is still, when it comes to general mentality, a socialist country, and the majority of the people still believes that important social structures (hospitals, the pharmacy, schools, train system, important businesses, etc.) should be governmentally owned as opposed to privately owned.
But, like BigSwede said, hopefully the right wing will be replaced in the upcoming election next year. I'm counting the days...
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Old 12-28-2009, 06:20 PM
 
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They've sold out so much of our governmentaly owned properties - against the will of the people. Sweden is still, when it comes to general mentality, a socialist country, and the majority of the people still believes that important social structures (hospitals, the pharmacy, schools, train system, important businesses, etc.) should be governmentally owned as opposed to privately owned.
But, like BigSwede said, hopefully the right wing will be replaced in the upcoming election next year. I'm counting the days...

Are they likely to be replaced? I have noticed a few other countries moving more toward the right(I am using the american definitions of right and left). It really disturbs me because I would hope the citizens of countries like Canada,Australia and Sweden would look at the US and what we have become over the past 8 years (actually more like since 1980) and say no way we don't want that for our country!

Just a little story about how ugly things are in this country(particularly the south). I have friends that live in a neighborhood near me and they were the only people in the entire neighborhood to have an Obama sign in their yard during the election. During the time that the sign was up, they had people spray paint things on their garage doors and they had their house rolled and egged several times. This Halloween almost a year after the election someone put a bag of flaming crap on their front porch with a note calling them a N****r lover.

Just writing that makes me want to get on the plane and head over to Sweden tonight
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:15 PM
 
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The whole idea of politicians acting like angry, bullying kids is foreign to us. Here, a bad "political argument" consists pretty much of "he's wrong because his idea is incorrect, and I'm right". I can't recall ever hearing a politician use a "bad" word to describe the opponent. They're supposed to be professionals, or we won't vote for them (who wants a kindergarten group running the country?)
The difference lies in the kindergarten system, hockey moms & dads.

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They've sold out so much of our government owned properties - against the will of the people. Sweden is still, when it comes to general mentality, a socialist country, and the majority of the people still believes that important social structures (hospitals, the pharmacy, schools, train system, important businesses, etc.) should be government owned as opposed to privately owned.
I read you sold off some 6 airports to private owners. Not a bad idea actually. To draw an analogy, it's way better than paying their own friends a few $M a year each to take care of a railway line of 6 kilo meters.
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Old 12-29-2009, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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They've sold out so much of our governmentaly owned properties - against the will of the people. Sweden is still, when it comes to general mentality, a socialist country, and the majority of the people still believes that important social structures (hospitals, the pharmacy, schools, train system, important businesses, etc.) should be governmentally owned as opposed to privately owned.
But, like BigSwede said, hopefully the right wing will be replaced in the upcoming election next year. I'm counting the days...
This is one of the things I don't like.
There is not much I can do about being a part of the EU since voting no,but I think they should stay out of domestic businesses which they have nothing to do with.
I don't mind private options that much,but I don't like it at the cost of the government owned options.
I am not that good at explaining in english what I mean,but I want back the politics from the so called record years in the late sixties and early seventies when everything actually worked fine and just about everybody was happy about it.
Maybe update it to fit in with the 2010's,I don't know.
I'll see if I can find a good link in english that explains it further.
I also don't like that we take part in the EU army and are fighting along with NATO in a war we have nothing to do with.I think it increases the threat to our country which is evident since they have started to attack the swedish army in Afghanistan.
This almost never happened to our peace keeping forces under the UN flag.
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:42 AM
 
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I wish that I lived in a country where you didn't gain respect by writing a song with the line "we'll stick a boot up you ass, it's the american way" Didn't this loon get invited to the Nobel Peace Ceremony? Isn't that kind of like inviting Yoko Ono to a gun rights rally? Of course giving it to someone who just sent more troops to war is kind of the same thing too, I guess
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Old 12-29-2009, 09:03 AM
 
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I understand your problems with the government selling things to private enterprise. In the US even if the government helps pay for the research for a new drug they have no authority to set price caps. There is so much pharmaceutical advertising here my six year old quotes the side effects of drugs.
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