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Old 03-17-2018, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Then why is mafia sitting in London, inquiring minds want to know?
London is quite close compared to Mexico City, where Trotsky was assassinated in.
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Old 03-17-2018, 09:05 AM
 
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Many of the Russian oligarchs live in London

Rich Russians: The wealthiest oligarchs who call London home | The Independent

Some of them, even Putin allies, may want to get rid of Putin.
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Old 03-17-2018, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Russia
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Many of the Russian oligarchs live in London

Rich Russians: The wealthiest oligarchs who call London home | The Independent

Some of them, even Putin allies, may want to get rid of Putin.
Wet dreams of the West))): D
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Old 03-17-2018, 12:44 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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Either the west cares about Russia and wants Putin gone or the west wants a weak Russia and wants Putin to stay stealing its resources. I'd say we are okay with either.
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Old 03-17-2018, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Either the west cares about Russia and wants Putin gone or the west wants a weak Russia and wants Putin to stay stealing its resources. I'd say we are okay with either.
These words must be cast in bronze ))))))
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Old 03-17-2018, 01:47 PM
 
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These words must be cast in bronze ))))))
I am just astounded that he actually expects someone with a brain to believe it.
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Old 03-17-2018, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Russia
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I am just astounded that he actually expects someone with a brain to believe it.
It's not for faith, it creates a background, a kind of hidden advertisement.
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Old 03-17-2018, 05:03 PM
 
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Yes, that's right. But what's libel ? Satire,art and libel (пасквиль) are two different things.
I suspect you don't know what you are talking about.
"Libel" becomes "libel" only when defamation ( i.e. the action of damaging the good reputation of someone with NO real ground) can be proven. So it's a matter of law.
If someone is sarcastic towards your favorite leader, this doesn't make satire a "libel" (or "пасквиль,") since no one can legally prove that what's stated in the mentioned satire is NOT true. ( With other words, if you don't like something, that doesn't mean that it's a lie.)

Now this particular Visotsky's song you've posted was not satire, but HUMOR ( Visotsky overall was not satirical, he was humorous.) Although, I imagine some zealous Semites could identify his song as a "libel" as well)))
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Old 03-17-2018, 05:06 PM
 
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London is quite close compared to Mexico City, where Trotsky was assassinated in.
Apparently it's not a case, otherwise Russian mafiosi would be moving to Mexico City in droves.
But they clearly prefer London.
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Old 03-17-2018, 08:22 PM
DKM
 
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Apparently it's not a case, otherwise Russian mafiosi would be moving to Mexico City in droves.
But they clearly prefer London.
Ariete is saying they used to prefer Mexico City. I don't know how much is true, but some did go there into exile. London isn't so much exile as it is a safe place to run with cash and laws to protect you. What it isn't safe from is assassins apparently. Neither was Mexico City for Trotsky
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