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Then I would guess that anti-Russian hysteria is growing in Eastern Europe.
I wonder whether it has got anything to do with the latest MAKS air show)))
Considering Karlovy Vary is owned by the Russian mafia and Prague also, the Czechs are not doing enough. The ones from Bulgaria run away as the Ruble is weaker so it doesn't make sense keeping their properties here. Hope they leave Karlovy vary and Prague as well! I hated Prague mostly due to the Americans and Russians acting entitled and making the place look like a small version of 'Murrica/Russia. Karlovy Vary and Prague don't feel authentically Czech anymore!
As for China, it's very easy to have growing economy with so many people, cheap slave labor, and stealing tech from the west by espionage and copying. Turkey also produces lots of Western car/bus brands but they do not steal like that.
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It's the religion (the whole philosophy, the mindset of it) that is simply in-com-pa-ti-ble with Western values in its very core.
Starting with the way it views the women.
I was looked with anger by young immigrant Muslim kids in the Netherlands... just for wearing a Swiss winter hat with the Swiss cross (that looks more like the + sign anyway). Nothing like this happened in Slovakia or Czech Republic where welfare isn't so readily available for turd worlders.
Well my point is, that whoever decided to turn the country with a third world mentality into a major player in the world economy, basically sent us all in a whirlpool.
And when it comes to Islam - I didn't even start yet)))
Care to elaborate more on this?
The "most favored nation" status can be removed easily, todate over 180 countries have been granted the MFN status. May be not?
China's MFN status was made permanent on December 27, 2001. All of the former Soviet states, including Russia, were granted MFN status in 1996. ... Since 1998, the term normal trade relations (NTR) has replaced most favoured nation in all U.S. statutes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_favoured_nation
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And that's what I find particularly scary.
When you combine "nei juan" ( "faster and better") mentality with the unstoppable desire to make money, it's the third world mentality that will stop at nothing while doing it - be that selling animals from the lab to the near-by market, putting some additives in the infants formulas to make it "look thicker" and the rest.
You have a valid point there, Erasure.
That "third world mentality" combining with "get rich quick" examples you mentioned, happened a decade ago. After their National Security Tsar and his ilk were imprisoned, some sort of law and order seems in place.
But how was that affecting you?
Here in Canada, our No 2 richest man is a resident of Hong Kong, and so is Kashing Li.
Another HK billionaire reputed to be even richer than Ks Li, though not a Canadian citizen, has donated xxx,xxx,xxx dollars to our local temples. Because his (ex) and (only) wife lives here. Can't believe our hospitals did not get any humongous donations from them. Oh, they do not need our universal healthcare.
Care to elaborate more on this?
The "most favored nation" status can be removed easily, todate over 180 countries have been granted the MFN status. May be not?
China's MFN status was made permanent on December 27, 2001. All of the former Soviet states, including Russia, were granted MFN status in 1996. ... Since 1998, the term normal trade relations (NTR) has replaced most favoured nation in all U.S. statutes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_favoured_nation
2001?
MFN?
As far as I remember, everything took place earlier than that.
The conversation ( with certain person) that I remember back in the 90ies;
"So we went to China to talk with the management ( they were planning to move the production there,) and while we were touring the factory, we noticed the safety violation ( according to American standards of course,) when we saw the water running close to electricity.
We pointed to the management at this danger, but they basically said "It's OK, we have a lot of workers."
Meaning people are replaceable if anything happens to them."
The Chinese *managers* were eager to get in the game, and Clinton's administration was eager to move production to China.
If you'll ever get the book "The Walmart Effect," you'll get the idea what became of US economy ( and social structure in many ways) after this *transition.*
I still remember what America used to be BEFORE this transition, and how different it became AFTER it.
So MFN from 2001 is not a problem here, what happened already BEFORE it IS.
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You have a valid point there, Erasure.
That "third world mentality" combining with "get rich quick" examples you mentioned, happened a decade ago. After their National Security Tsar and his ilk were imprisoned, some sort of law and order seems in place.
And did it happen BEFORE or after pets in America started dying after having "snacks" supplied from China?
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But how was that affecting you?
EVERYTHING that took place back then ( in the nineties, and actually even earlier, which was the *prelude* to it,) affected me personally and directly a great deal.
Not to mention how much I started to dislike the Wal-Mart America.
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Here in Canada, our No 2 richest man is a resident of Hong Kong, and so is Kashing Li.
Another HK billionaire reputed to be even richer than Ks Li, though not a Canadian citizen, has donated xxx,xxx,xxx dollars to our local temples. Because his (ex) and (only) wife lives here. Can't believe our hospitals did not get any humongous donations from them. Oh, they do not need our universal healthcare.
"Local temples?"
And why wouldn't he donate all these money to his native China?
After all he made his fortune on the backs of his own people, on their misery, did he not?
Are they all that wealthy by now ( the Chinese that is,) that THEY don't need his money?
2001?
MFN?
As far as I remember, everything took place earlier than that.
The conversation ( with certain person) that I remember back in the 90ies;
"So we went to China to talk with the management ( they were planning to move the production there,) and while we were touring the factory, we noticed the safety violation ( according to American standards of course,) when we saw the water running close to electricity.
We pointed to the management at this danger, but they basically said "It's OK, we have a lot of workers."
Meaning people are replaceable if anything happens to them."
The Chinese *managers* were eager to get in the game, and Clinton's administration was eager to move production to China.
If you'll ever get the book "The Walmart Effect," you'll get the idea what became of US economy ( and social structure in many ways) after this *transition.*
I still remember what America used to be BEFORE this transition, and how different it became AFTER it.
So MFN from 2001 is not a problem here, what happened already BEFORE it IS.
And did it happen BEFORE or after pets in America started dying after having "snacks" supplied from China?
EVERYTHING that took place back then ( in the nineties, and actually even earlier, which was the *prelude* to it,) affected me personally and directly a great deal.
Not to mention how much I started to dislike the Wal-Mart America.
"Local temples?"
And why wouldn't he donate all these money to his native China?
After all he made his fortune on the backs of his own people, on their misery, did he not?
Are they all that wealthy by now ( the Chinese that is,) that THEY don't need his money?
Could expand more on this, but want to stay within range "all about Russia".
Just heard the interview of Imran Khan by Judy Woodruff. The whole transcription is available online.
Wow! 20 years in Afghanistan and xxx billions later, Imran Khan said: "US really messed it up."
Aren't you glad that Russia got out much much earlier.
Could expand more on this, but want to stay within range "all about Russia".
Just heard the interview of Imran Khan by Judy Woodruff. The whole transcription is available online.
Wow! 20 years in Afghanistan and xxx billions later, Imran Khan said: "US really messed it up." Aren't you glad that Russia got out much much earlier.
Not at all.
If Russians would have been allowed to establish *socialism* in Afghanistan back in the 80ies, without American hindrance, this would have been a much better outcome for everyone in the long run, Americans including.
At least in THAT part of the world, it's not enough to tell the locals "don't be radical Islamists" - it's necessary to show them what to replace Islam with.
Sort of in the same manner what Russians did in the Central Asia.
I think when it comes to dealing with Islam, Russians were doing much better job than Westerners ever did.
That's when we are talking Soviet times.
What came AFTER it ( and here I normally should address the "new Russians" that Grega referred to in his post, and THEIR philosophy) is a whole different story.
Overall I'd say Russians have very thorough studies of the "East" in general, a lot of genuine interest ( and fascination) with that part of the world, which I definitely don't share)))
I am pretty sure it was a case back in Imperial times, during Soviet times with the "Institute of Asian and African countries" where they were preparing very good specialists and so on.
I think Russians are VERY versatile in this respect; they are very perceptive ( have very good understanding) not only of the "West," but of the "East" as well.
My jaw dropped recently when I was watching these videos, with some Russian businessman living in China, and his young son, who was invited to the central Chinese TV program and won some "talent show," knowing the kind of Chinese idioms/curious facts/mythology that apparently even adult Chinese don't know.
He is only 6 years old.
I am not going to translate the whole text here, ( questions/answers,) but you can see the dynamics of that show (apprx. from 1:31)
Considering Karlovy Vary is owned by the Russian mafia and Prague also, the Czechs are not doing enough. The ones from Bulgaria run away as the Ruble is weaker so it doesn't make sense keeping their properties here. Hope they leave Karlovy vary and Prague as well! I hated Prague mostly due to the Americans and Russians acting entitled and making the place look like a small version of 'Murrica/Russia. Karlovy Vary and Prague don't feel authentically Czech anymore!
As for China, it's very easy to have growing economy with so many people, cheap slave labor, and stealing tech from the west by espionage and copying. Turkey also produces lots of Western car/bus brands but they do not steal like that.
I was looked with anger by young immigrant Muslim kids in the Netherlands... just for wearing a Swiss winter hat with the Swiss cross (that looks more like the + sign anyway). Nothing like this happened in Slovakia or Czech Republic where welfare isn't so readily available for turd worlders.
Tell me where you've seen the big version of it)))
As far as I’m aware China developed its own civilisation independently as opposed to Europe which was an off shoot from the Middle East/Mediterranean world. For most of its history China was the greatest power in the world even rivalling Rome and they produced many great works of art, science, literature, architecture etc. Their main drawback was their pride and arrogance in their own culture, disregard for others, and they shut them selves off from the rest of the world, until Europe surpassed them and came knocking at their door and humiliated the country. Now China is finally rising back up to its historical standing in the world. And as far as any perceived cultural immaturity, that probably has more to do with China’s enormous peasant population that has only recently been taken out of poverty and have moved into the cities. Poor rural folk are always the bane of the “inlightend” intelligentsia, whether that be in the early days of Peter the Great and his western cultural reforms or the soviets bringing literacy to the masses, or even in the US where the democrats represent the “cultured” city folk and the republicans represent the “brutish” rural folk/ “uncultured” new money. China right now is filled with new money types of people who are drunk on money and the power and social clout that comes with it, the same thing applies to Russia too btw. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouveau_riche
It's "rising back" only because Americans passed them the modern technology ( with the purpose of using cheap Chinese labor.)
Before that no one has heard about "great Chinese engineers and scientists."
Unless we are talking Roman times ( according to you.)
And when it comes to the "new Russians" and THEIR mentality - I think I've already mentioned that Russia is a "twilight zone."
That is that it combines the European features and the features of the third world alike.
And unfortunately, the 90ies were the clear manifestation of the latter one.
Then I would guess that anti-Russian hysteria is growing in Eastern Europe.
I wonder whether it has got anything to do with the latest MAKS air show)))
No hysteria, the ruble is weaker and they don't have the means to live here and travel often.
Btw, to cite a very important fictional character from Brit TV I have no Russian connections whatsoever.
If Russians would have been allowed to establish *socialism* in Afghanistan back in the 80ies, without American hindrance, this would have been a much better outcome for everyone in the long run, Americans including.
The people are the victims. I hope the Pashtuns can go home soon.
I don't know if "socialism" is possible in an Islamic State. But I read that after the ....
"Third Anglo-Afghan War, the British conceded Afghanistan's full independence. King Amanullah afterwards wrote to Moscow (now under Bolshevik control) desiring for permanent friendly relations. Vladimir Lenin replied by congratulating the Afghans for their defense against the British, and a treaty of friendship between Afghanistan and the Soviet Union was finalized in 1921."
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And did it happen BEFORE or after pets in America started dying after having "snacks" supplied from China?
Right after that bozo crashed into the US Embassy in Chongqing. Then, it took quite a long time to weed out the worms, still ongoing. Some of those stolen money were used to buy up oilsands investments too. Now they are more savvy and invested in xx million properties and turned them into spas (read brothels) and bars (read underground gambling dens and money-laundering).
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"Local temples?" And why wouldn't he donate all these money to his native China? After all he made his fortune on the backs of his own people, on their misery, did he not? Are they all that wealthy by now ( the Chinese that is,) that THEY don't need his money?
These are real estate developers based in a foreign country, so successful that the young people in HK are priced out of a tiny condo. Of course, western countries can absorb these people.
In another 20 years, or may be earlier, with the help of their buddies, these temples could disappeared and replaced by highrises.
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