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By that argument, everyone is related to Jews because everyone descends from Noah. Btw Armenians are linguistically Indo-Europeans, not sure which branch they are closest to, but it’s usually grouped in the Satem group (Baltic-Slavic and Indo-Iranic), although many linguists postulate that Armenian language split off from a Proto Greco-Armenian language. Genetically their most common y Haplogroup is R1b, same as Western Europe, though if I understand it correctly they have the older version. Also in modern times they are closest related to Sardinians since Sardinians are genetically very close to the original Neolithic farmers who moved from the near east to Europe, which Armenians are also very closely related it, if not the closest of all modern people?
Not exactly Grega, because if you look at the "table of nations," then you'll notice that Noah had three sons - Ham, Shem and Japeth.
So roughly speaking, the "semites" ( and Armenians as much as *Jews* belong to this branch,) are coming from Shem.
From what I've heard, the Blacks ( Africans that is) consider themselves to be the descendants of Ham, and the Whites - ( i.e. Europids) are descendants of Japeth.
And then, of course, there is a theory of the "ten lost tribes of Israel" ( out of total 12,) and in this case I would guess that Armenians are downright one of those tribes.
P.S. Turks are still pushing for bringing their troops into Azerbaijan, and there are first reports already of the desecration of old Armenian churches in Karabakh ( the vandalism.)
All while Armenians kept all mosques in tact ( even repaired them, as sites of historical and cultural value) while staying in Karabakh.
I believe that at the end this conflict will turn into Islamic VS Christendom sooner or later, even if now Azerbaijan is pretending to be "secular," and Russians are still asking their government to prevent the vandalism towards the churches and Armenian graves.
Stalin was singled out for placing the majority-Armenian region of Nagorno-Karabakh into Azerbaijan in the early 1920s.
But if one looks at the map below, it makes sense that people with close cultural ties live in the same friendly geographic zone. Er, particularly if they all have long memories.
Actually.. from what I read in Russian Wiki, it were the Brits ( to my big surprise) that originally placed Karabakh and Zanzegur with Azerbaijan back in January 1919, (temporarily, until the further decision of Paris Peace Conference. )
(You can scroll down to "Caucasus" there.)
Stalin ( back in 1920-21) was precisely that - the "people's commissar" responsible for the "national questions" in the Soviet government, however the idea of handing N. Karabakh to Azerbaijan didn't belong even to him, but to Sergo Ordzhonikidze.
If I dig through tonnes of events/circumstances to the bottom line of it all, then the reason why Stalin decided to keep N.K. with Azerbaijan back THEN at least, was because Armenia had still the nationalists ( dashnak) government, not the Soviet one.
Not exactly Grega, because if you look at the "table of nations," then you'll notice that Noah had three sons - Ham, Shem and Japeth.
So roughly speaking, the "semites" ( and Armenians as much as *Jews* belong to this branch,) are coming from Shem.
From what I've heard, the Blacks ( Africans that is) consider themselves to be the descendants of Ham, and the Whites - ( i.e. Europids) are descendants of Japeth.
And then, of course, there is a theory of the "ten lost tribes of Israel" ( out of total 12,) and in this case I would guess that Armenians are downright one of those tribes.
P.S. Turks are still pushing for bringing their troops into Azerbaijan, and there are first reports already of the desecration of old Armenian churches in Karabakh ( the vandalism.)
All while Armenians kept all mosques in tact ( even repaired them, as sites of historical and cultural value) while staying in Karabakh.
I believe that at the end this conflict will turn into Islamic VS Christendom sooner or later, even if now Azerbaijan is pretending to be "secular," and Russians are still asking their government to prevent the vandalism towards the churches and Armenian graves.
The older I get the harder it is for me to take these early Bible stories literally, to me these stories are just allegorical. Besides why doesn’t the Bible take into account East Asians, native Americans, sub Saharan Africans and Australasians? Also Africans descending from Ham, wasn’t that theory created by Europeans? Or at least they used to justify black slavery since Ham was cursed. But anyway this is a topic for a different thread.
The older I get the harder it is for me to take these early Bible stories literally, to me these stories are just allegorical. Besides why doesn’t the Bible take into account East Asians, native Americans, sub Saharan Africans and Australasians? Also Africans descending from Ham, wasn’t that theory created by Europeans? Or at least they used to justify black slavery since Ham was cursed. But anyway this is a topic for a different thread.
Have no idea.
I've heard about it from AAs for the first time ( reference to Ham.)
But yes, you are right - this is not a good thread for this type of discussions.
I’m actually a bit confused here. I remember civis constantly praising Russia in the past. He would often have harsh words for those who criticize Putin.
What happened here?
I remember no such things. Civis has never had much to contribute. IMO. More of a true troll if there ever was one, not even close to DKM our reincarnation of Herr Goebbles himself. I rarely pay attention to anything it posts.
I'm 99% sure there were billions of Rubles stolen during this "upgrade", current Russian state power has shown multiple times complete absence of any moral standards or law obedience - they exchanged "шило на мыло". Trolleys were already 21st century, now they have to buy and recycle all those batteries, which is freaking expensive, pretty sure more expensive than just maintaining simple electric wires.
Oh, you can be sure of anything )) No one forbids it.Obviously, in the country where you are located, everything is exactly as you describe, so you can't imagine a different picture, I'm 99 percent sure of it )))
While it’s true that a lot of trolleybus systems have closed down over the past 2 decades, I think you’re framing it the wrong way. There are still plenty of systems in place around the world. Trolleybus still offer advantages when ascending hills.
The reason I asked the question in the first place, is because I was surprised to see it happen, since Moscow had one of the largest networks in the world.
You do realize that both grega and erasure are Russian.
Maybe, but I think the trolleybus has outlived its usefulness as a mass mode of transport. Where it gives an advantage, it will undoubtedly remain. But contain a huge infrastructure. a huge number of expensive copper wires, which by the way wear out.In General, there are too many disadvantages..
Are you sure they're Russian? Or are they from Russia ? However, this is not important and you should not go personal here. Many of our former fellow citizens who emigrated in the 90's still have not changed their vision of Russia. They are just mentally there, in the 90's, and in the meantime, there are huge changes, and a lot and very quickly. even Russia 2010, 2015 and 2020 are very different, and Russia 1998 and Russia 2020 are just two completely different countries. That's how it is.
This described the situation fairly well; ( coming from one of the Karabakh key figures in charge from Armenian side ( from 16:02)
" I repeat again; let's figure out our military goal; so we'll hit Shushi with 20-30 salvos of Smerches, finish off everyone there, take the city back and then what? The conditions our army ( and civilians) are in, don't allow us to continue the war. We need to conduct negotiations with Russia, to explain that Karabakh is asking for 10 days to arrange unconditional capitulation and then we leave OR we leave our army to the will of fate. Imagine we have only two Grads for the entire army and dozen of Howitzer for which we don't have ammunition. But even if we'll receive 100 Grads, we don't have specialists that can operate these machines.
We are simply dying from drones, from Smerches and rockets. We are short on ammunition. The infantry can't operate without the preliminary bombardment - this is unrealistic. From military point of view our commandment of our troops was weak from the very beginning. We've had problems with discipline within our army; our battalion commanders had to be talked into changing positions when necessary. And all this became clear not today - it became clear from the second day of war.
So we definitely need to talk to the Russians."
P.S. I assume that Russian Smerches were sold both to Armenia and Azerbaijan.
So the whole situation was obviously more than just "drones vs tanks."
I don't believe anyone has claimed it was "just drones vs tanks" but the report you cite clearly specifies drones first, suggesting they were the biggest problem.
I don't believe anyone has claimed it was "just drones vs tanks" but the report you cite clearly specifies drones first, suggesting they were the biggest problem.
I generally don't pay much attention to people who make conclusory statements (not a game changer) with certainty. I'll just note this:
Think about what you wrote, Armenia, small, poor, with expensive weaponry, (and according to you, no army to speak of), Azerbaijan, larger wealthier with inexpensive weaponry. What if it was Armenia that had the drones and Azerbaijan had the tanks?
Pointing out the obvious, that it might not work in other situations, is as useless as me asserting the alternative.
The biggest problem here was that Armenian army was in poor shape to begin with, comparably to Azeri's one.
Given all equal - then we could REALLY talk about how much drones can be a "game changer."
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Azerbaijan, larger wealthier with inexpensive weaponry. What if it was Armenia that had the drones and Azerbaijan had the tanks?