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"In the 1930's, the Catholic Church and its political party, the Catholic Centre Party, were major social and political forces in Germany, although weakened by the Kulturkampf and challenged by socialism and communism. The German Catholic Church and the Vatican both pursued a series of policies and agreements with Nazi Germany intended to further the interests of Catholics and the Catholic church and counter the rise of atheism and communism. Towards the end of the Third Reich, the Nazi government reneged on some of its commitments to the Catholic church, but most of the agreements have remained in force to this day."
That's what you call "opposition" to Hitler. Stick to facts.
I am sticking to the facts. Its not my problem than in Soviet schools they did not teach you about them for obvious reasons:
Mit brennender Sorge (German: "With burning concern") is a Catholic Church encyclical of Pope Pius XI, published on 10 March 1937 (but bearing a date of Passion Sunday, 14 March). [1] Written in German, not the usual Latin, it was read from the pulpits of all German Catholic churches on one of the Church's busiest Sundays, (Palm Sunday). It condemned breaches of the Reichskonkordat agreement signed between the Nazi government and the Church in 1933, and criticised those parts of Nazism that contradicted Catholicism, and condemned pantheistic confusion, neopaganism, "the so-called myth of race and blood", and statolatry. It contained a vigorous defence of the Old Testament out of belief that it prepared the way for the New. [2] In the opinion of some, it contained a veiled attack on Adolf Hitler.
May be enough already with your own re-invention of history?
I recommend reading a basic history book published in a Free World. It may open your eyes.
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One more time;
"The summers visit was critically important [as one commentator noted]: “Just before Yeltsin’s dissolution of the Congress September 21, the administration sent . . . Summers to Moscow to talk about the conditions for impending IMF aid. . . . Gaidar was immediately brought back as first deputy prime minister, and for the first time he really applied the shock therapy the IMF had been demanding. Bread prices were raised to the point where the daily minimum wage was roughly equal to the price of a loaf of bread in Moscow, and Gaidar promised a vigorous reduction of subsidies beginning January 1 of [1994]."
What part you don't understand here?
Washington rejects Yavlinsky's plan and using Yeltsin's inadequacy dictates him a different plan, to which Yeltsin agrees.
Where do you find in this source any reference to Yavlinsky's reforms?
It only mentions that IMF required economic reforms as a condition for $50B loan to Russia. The choice between Yavlinsky and Gaidar was made by Yeltsin not Washington. This is also confirmed by Yavlinsky himself.
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Gaidar is appointed as his prime-minister, since he is ready to implement this plan.
Yavlinsky is told by Dole about Yeltsin's so-called "weariness" regarding Yavlinsky's plan, because of its "riskiness." So instead Yeltsin implements what Washington desires,
And how do you know what Washington desired? According to Yavlinsky reforms have failed because of Soviet nomenklatura and not because of Washington.
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which is far more devastating than Yavlinsly's "risky" plan.
Do you think that Dole would say Yavlinsky in his face; "sorry, we told Yeltsin that we are not interested in your plan, because it doesn't suit our national interests, so we'll dictate him what we want to see instead."
You are funny to say the least.
I don't use my projection when looking at sources. Dole did not have to say anything to Yavlinsky, he did not have to meet with Yavlinsky at all.
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Of course Washington backed the worst part of Soviet nomenclature, because feeding their greed, Washington hoped to create the new class loyal to its masters, who helped them to assure their power and wealth.
Yes. Washington hoped to turn Russia into its colony using soviet nomenklatura. Rotfl. Why fonts you just say that CIA staged Russian revolution in 1918 for the same reason? ROTFL
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The rest won't end up well. Just keep on watching Putin, who is typical representative of this class; these particular people were always "Communists" in the name only. They were always the most dangerous and immoral part of Russian government.
There were the only people in soviet government. Lenin, Stalin, Beria, Brezhnev, Putin. The long list of s.o.b's...
I suspect that to get to the level of a member of politburo, or a local chief of KGB or militia you had to prove you were a scumbag ready to send your own mother to prison.
CIA did not train Putin or made him a colonel in KGB. These people were trained by soviet system. Pashka Morozov system. You are one of them. You look at the world from a soviet perspective. How can you bear living in the us remains a mystery to me. Lol
The funniest thing is the lack of democracy in Russia you don't blame on 80 years of antidemocratic regime or presence of "ex-communists" in Russian political and public life but on a government of a country with some of the longest Democratic traditions. Again. Beyond hilarious.
Yes. Washington hoped to turn Russia into its colony using soviet nomenklatura. Rotfl. Why fonts you just say that CIA staged Russian revolution in 1918 for the same reason? ROTFL
CIA didn't "stage Russian revolution," but indeed America got involved in Russian internal affairs back in 1918, as part of allied force, since the US didn't have the kind of clout in Europe yet back then.
So thank you for proving my point in a way.
CIA didn't "stage Russian revolution," but indeed America got involved in Russian internal affairs back in 1918, as part of allied force, since the US didn't have the kind of clout in Europe yet back then.
So thank you for proving my point in a way.
Your point? Lol. The us with other 14 countries were trying to rescue Russia from Communism and the atrocities that followed. You should be grateful.
Anyways, in the old Communist fashion you blame America and the west for all the evils of Russia forgetting that the West in 1918 was already democratic while Russia regressed into antidemocratic regime for over 60 years.
I don't understand why you can't embrace Putin, he is one of you guys, member of komsomol and the Party, officer of KGB. He is a perfect example of a good communist. He made a carrier in Soviet Union, not just anybody could become a colonel in KGB and be stationed outside of Russia (East Germany) - he is great example of a man of the soviet system, just like the KGB chairman Yuri Andropov and many before them.
rebel12 ,Democracy in America? Are you kidding?When you are released of the yellow house?As a child, often fell to the of the head?You do not imitate!
You are right Karast. There is no democracy in America or United Kingdom, France or Japan.
We are all waiting for you Russians to show us what real democracy should look like. ROTFL
You are right Karast. There is no democracy in America or United Kingdom, France or Japan.
We are all waiting for you Russians to show us what real democracy should look like. ROTFL
It generally do not exist! Have to wait long. lol. You know that the electoral system in America is the same as in China, the only difference is that the name is different.
You are right Karast. There is no democracy in America or United Kingdom, France or Japan.
There is. But of an arguable nature.
That's why this kind of democracy will be always questioned, tested and controlled by external forces. Russia is one of them. It's all very biblical Rebel. Someone who loves Catholicism as much as you, needs to realize it by now. Even Catholic church with all its might went down the tube at certain point in time and doesn't have a power it used to have. All is questionable and relative in this world, western style of democracy and power of money including.
There is. But of an arguable nature.
That's why this kind of democracy will be always questioned, tested and controlled by external forces. Russia is one of them. It's all very biblical Rebel. Someone who loves Catholicism as much as you, needs to realize it by now. Even Catholic church with all its might went down the tube at certain point in time and doesn't have a power it used to have. All is questionable and relative in this world, western style of democracy and power of money including.
"This kind". Do you know any better kind? The problem with you commies is that you are always criticizing Democratic societies, pointing out the glitches in our political system and injustice of capitalism but then propose a system that rejects democracy and has none of the checks and balances built into democracy that allow us to thrive in a pretty good shape while all socialist utopias degenerated into murderous and oppressive monstrosities.
Yes, capitalism is bad and democracy far from perfect, but we don't know of any better system. Do you?
It generally do not exist! Have to wait long. lol. You know that the electoral system in America is the same as in China, the only difference is that the name is different.
Damn, a guy from Russia wants to teach us about democracy now
If it wasn't for us you would only read about the internet in science fiction books
If it wasn't for us you would only read about the internet in science fiction books
SU had its own computer networks, that merged with the internet.
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