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Another absolutely ludicrous example of stretching the truth into the stratosphere - making it sound like SCHIP goes under if cigarette tax collections go down...
Care to post a link with data to substantiate this insane conclusion??? Hmmmm???
First, the comment was tongue in cheeck, did you miss the little grin at the end?
Second, if the tax revenue from cigarettes go down because people stop smoking, how will you pay for these programs?
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They're all against abortion - but as soon as a baby is born to an impoverished family on welfare - then they'd just as soon have it die of starvation... especially if helping support it impacts their prescious tax cuts...
I'm really trying to see the logic in this entire thread...
Who was actually taxed? The cigarrette manufactures and suppliers or the tax payers? I don't smoke and i do not make over $250K will I be taxed?
The tax was not on the people. ?
The people pay the tax at point of sale, not a tax on the manu or supplier.
When you go to the grocery store and buy food, you pay a state tax (well, if your state charges a state tax on groceries). You pay that tax at the point of sale. The store then sends that tax to the state. (Could be food, clothes, any item - you pay a state sales tax which is sent to the state).
It is the same system with cigarettes, gasoline, and alcohol/beer/wine. You pay a federal and a state tax at the point of sale which is then sent on to the fed or state.
People often go across a state border to buy gas/cigs/beer/etc. because they can buy these items cheaper in the neighboring state partly due to the state sales tax.
The group most affected by the cig tax is the poor because they are the group with the largest number of smokers.
The people pay the tax at point of sale, not a tax on the manu or supplier.
When you go to the grocery store and buy food, you pay a state tax (well, if your state charges a state tax on groceries). You pay that tax at the point of sale. The store then sends that tax to the state. (Could be food, clothes, any item - you pay a state sales tax which is sent to the state).
It is the same system with cigarettes, gasoline, and alcohol/beer/wine. You pay a federal and a state tax at the point of sale which is then sent on to the fed or state.
People often go across a state border to buy gas/cigs/beer/etc. because they can buy these items cheaper in the neighboring state partly due to the state sales tax.
The group most affected by the cig tax is the poor because they are the group with the largest number of smokers.
So this takes me back to one of my questions. Did EVERYONE below the 250K income get a tax increase?
Congress raises or lows taxes, not Presidents. Congress increased taxes on cigarettes from $0.24 to $0.34 per pack in 2000, when Clinton was President. Congress again increased taxes on cigarettes from $0.34 to $0.39 per pack in 2002, when Bush was President. So this is just more of the same. So much for our Affirmative Action President's empty "Change" rhetoric. It isn't about "change", it is about maintaining the status quo and keeping liberal freaks in power.
You should have included Obama's complete quote from September 12, 2008:
Our first Affirmative Action President repeatedly vowed "you will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime." In his nomination speech he said "Listen now, I will cut taxes — cut taxes — for 95 percent of all working families, because, in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle class."
Naturally, the very first bill he signs into law increases taxes that effect the poor the most by more than 2,000% in some cases. The biggest losers in the new excise tax are the makers of roll-your-own tobacco, which the poor resort to using when premium cigarettes become unaffordable. The tax on RYO tobacco, for example, went from $1.10 per pound to $24.78 per pound. That is a tax increase of 2,252.7%!
So there can be no question that our Affirmative Action President lied through his teeth, as anyone with a brain knew he would.
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Originally Posted by Glitch
Congress raises or lows taxes, not Presidents. Congress increased taxes on cigarettes from $0.24 to $0.34 per pack in 2000, when Clinton was President. Congress again increased taxes on cigarettes from $0.34 to $0.39 per pack in 2002, when Bush was President. So this is just more of the same.
It is pretty sad, but very indicative of liberal freaks, when you haven't the first clue how your own government functions. You might want to get educated before making any more posts that demonstrate your ignorance.
"I can make a firm pledge . . . no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase." Remember that? It was Barack Obama, campaigning to become president last Sept. 12 in Dover, N.H.
Indeed, he promised repeatedly that 95% of American families would get a tax cut. So it's especially fitting that he chose April Fools Day to implement his first tax increase -- which will fall mostly on individuals and families who do not make anywhere near $250,000 per year.
Early in February, the president signed a law to triple the federal excise tax on cigarettes -- which will jump from 39 cents per pack to $1.01 today. His administration projects this tax hike will bring in at least $38 billion over the next five years.
I'm sure the liberals response will be.. thats ok that he stood there and lied to my face to get my vote.. People should be healthy and shouldnt smoke..
give me a break! smoking is a choice. If you can't afford it, quit.
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