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The concept of why the war started was useful for the election and weighing the candidates. But after all this time the dimensions of it have expanded far beyond the genesis of and for. Obama can no longer say he was against from the beginning with the election being over and having won. It will on January 21 be his war and he will be the one waging it.
Unless he has them out by 11:59 P.M. on the 21st he will be waging it on the 22nd. Until he exits he will be waging and there will still be a residual force behind per Obama.
[mod cut] Do you think that Carter was given a choice as to what government he should 'install' in Iran?
Do you bother to read and think these days. I am not agreeing with him but pointed out that the Shah was a pro American puppet and thats why he fell so why would another one be any more successful. [mod cut]
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'Nice solid middle ground'? Does that include his cabinet's unanimous support for the war in Iraq, and Gates support of Guantanamo and Abu Grabe? Gravel and Kucinich just so happened to be among the few who rightly opposed the war in Iraq for a number of moral and practical reasons. The 2 wars put on American credit cards have undermined our moral credibility around the world. Just how do the stances of Gravel and Kucinich make them 'Wing Nuts'. Please tell me.
America's Most Kooky-Wacky Candidates - Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2007/07/16/forbes-tracker-kookywacky-oped-cx_daa_0717kookywacky.html - broken link)
When it comes to the most kooky-wacky candidates or potential candidates in America's presidential sweepstakes, Dennis Kucinich comes in No. 1 by a wide margin. As for Republicans, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., takes top billing, though he trails far behind Kucinich and two other Democrats.
Some 29% of the population polled in the July edition of the Forbes '08 Tracker, among the most unconventional polls in this year's presidential contest, call Kucinich kooky-wacky.
Just another poll result. You know how I love polls and you did to when they showed Obama winning. Some times we have to take the good data with the bad data if we want to use data.
Unless he has them out by 11:59 P.M. on the 21st he will be waging it on the 22nd. Until he exits he will be waging and there will still be a residual force behind per Obama.
Don't trivialize this matter with useless word-play. Of course Obama has inherited a war he did not want. He isn't 'waging' it but thousands of Americans are. Obama has stated that his primary concern is to safely remove the troops and also to protect the safety of Iraqis as much as possible.
people only think Kucinich is wacky because people smear him about seeing a ufo when Reagan and Carter both have seen them too. Its just something they smeared him with, yet the same people would dare not smear King Reagan with it. Kucinich has been right about many things. Starting in the 70s with the electric company, The mob tried to kill him and he still held his ground, the city now says he was right!! to the patriot act, the iraq war... he voted NO on those things. He has the GUTS to do the RIGHT thing. Repubs and lots of Dems dont like that, tuff.. sometimes I think Kucinich is the only sane one in the whole bunch.
Do you bother to read and think these days. I am not agreeing with him but pointed out that the Shah was a pro American puppet and thats why he fell so why would another one be any more successful. [mod cut]
When you quote others, please put quotes around them or otherwise indicate that you are quoting someone else's stupid remarks, else they will be ascribed to you.
America's Most Kooky-Wacky Candidates - Forbes.com (http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2007/07/16/forbes-tracker-kookywacky-oped-cx_daa_0717kookywacky.html - broken link)
When it comes to the most kooky-wacky candidates or potential candidates in America's presidential sweepstakes, Dennis Kucinich comes in No. 1 by a wide margin. As for Republicans, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., takes top billing, though he trails far behind Kucinich and two other Democrats.
Some 29% of the population polled in the July edition of the Forbes '08 Tracker, among the most unconventional polls in this year's presidential contest, call Kucinich kooky-wacky.
Just another poll result. You know how I love polls and you did to when they showed Obama winning. Some times we have to take the good data with the bad data if we want to use data.
Ohh, neo-con Forbes thinks that Kucinich is 'kooky'. More mindless drivel from the 'heartland' of American stupidity.
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