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Old 07-24-2008, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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so much talk about barack obama going to europe by his rabid fans. when is the european primary? just wondering when they are casting their votes. oh, they aren't and it doesn't matter? yeah, that's what I thought. instead of being a rock star in europe, perhaps barack should be here trying to win the voters who can't stand him.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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so much talk about barack obama going to europe by his rabid fans. when is the european primary? just wondering when they are casting their votes. oh, they aren't and it doesn't matter? yeah, that's what I thought. instead of being a rock star in europe, perhaps barack should be here trying to win the voters who can't stand him.
With all of the American press following him in Europe, how can you say that his tour ISN'T influencing voters in America?
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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most people don't pay that close attention. only an idiot would vote for someone because they made friends in germany. oh wait, 99% of americans are idiots. you may be right. hopefully some will actually pay attention to issues and barack's horrible senate record will be exposed. he's not mainstream, but the media are doing their best to make him appear as such. hey germany, thanks again for taking a worthless american and making him a pop sensation in your country.

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With all of the American press following him in Europe, how can you say that his tour ISN'T influencing voters in America?
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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That was the objective - for Americans to see all the "love" the germans hold for The One. How could we NOT vote for him in that case?
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:36 PM
 
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So your argument consists of a claim that Obama's policies are terrible (not so much) and the Hoff.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:38 PM
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It is the egocentric behavior of our current administration that has made the U.S. a piriah among the nations. Nations that were once our friends now think of us as a bunch of dangerous cowboys with whom they do not choose to align themselves. Like it or not, in this world today, we need friends and allies. To continue to pretend that we can go it alone will continue to lead to quagmires like Iraq and will eventually lead to our downfall.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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all politicians policies are horrible. congress shall write no law. a president is to maintain the peace, not to maintain the country. I can maintain myself and don't need a 98 year old republicrat or a 17 year old mixed race socialist to tell me how to live.

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So your argument consists of a claim that Obama's policies are terrible (not so much) and the Hoff.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:40 PM
 
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they think we are a bunch of dangerous cowboys because that is the picture that european media wants to portray. watch the BBC sometime.

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It is the egocentric behavior of our current administration that has made the U.S. a piriah among the nations. Nations that were once our friends now think of us as a bunch of dangerous cowboys with whom they do not choose to align themselves. Like it or not, in this world today, we need friends and allies. To continue to pretend that we can go it alone will continue to lead to quagmires like Iraq and will eventually lead to our downfall.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Cary, NC
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all politicians policies are horrible. congress shall write no law. a president is to maintain the peace, not to maintain the country. I can maintain myself and don't need a 98 year old republicrat or a 17 year old mixed race socialist to tell me how to live.
In that case, hooray small government libertarians!

Still doesn't support your claim that the Eurotour is a bad move.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Wilmington, NC
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I think obama should be wooing americans who don't support him, not europeans who can't vote for him.

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In that case, hooray small government libertarians!

Still doesn't support your claim that the Eurotour is a bad move.
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