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Old 06-29-2008, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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He's an Obama supporter. He's also vying for VP or cabinet post. He is hardly objective. Would you really expect him to say otherwise?

Of course he will try and bring McCain down a notch. He is interested in getting Obama elected.

How incredible is it for Clark to say McCain is untried and untested when you have Obama sittin there with zippo military/foreign policy experience. He is the ultimate neophyte. Clark's credibility goes right out the window on that one.

What a laugher.
Senator Obama isn't running as the foreign policy expert. Your candidate is. Disprove the claim and assertion. Or should we all just continue to watch and dizzy ourselves as you dance the "Obama Tango". This wasn't an assertion based in objective/subjective reasoning - it was a blunt direct statement.

Clark said of McCain while speaking from his office in Little Rock, Arkansas. "The truth is that, in national security terms, he's largely untested and untried. He's never been responsible for policy formulation. He's never had leadership in a crisis, or in anything larger than his own element on an aircraft carrier or [in managing] his own congressional staff. It's not clear that this is going to be the strong suit that he thinks it is."

So make it clear for us - How is foreign policy the strong suit that Senator McCain thinks it is?
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Old 06-29-2008, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The OP and topic is Senator McCain is weaker on National Security as well as leadership on critical issues, such as leadership in terms of use of force, than he would have us believe.
So Clark asserts it and it must be true? I think not. McCain in my opinion is the best qualified by a long shot.
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Old 06-29-2008, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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And if he were running against McCain I would certainly take that into account, but the guy who is running hasn't.
Interesting. Is this a new rule? You should only address charges made by those directly in competition for the position you're running for? This is laughable at best considering the candidates typically must answer to a whole cadre of critics when in office.

A General just called your candidate on his primary platform "Untested and Untried", but this is of no concern because he's not running for President?
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Old 06-29-2008, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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So Clark asserts it and it must be true? I think not. McCain in my opinion is the best qualified by a long shot.
The proof you've provided is overwhelming.
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The proof is in his record - in the military and his service after that. Go look it up.

Clark is an Obama minion with NO credibility. He will say what he needs to say to worm his way in.
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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The proof you've provided is overwhelming.
Wes Clark isn't always the best source for supporting your position, apparently his perceptions are moving targets:

In an article in last Thursday's Toronto Star, reporter Tim Harper uncovered the identity of the man who supposedly called Wesley Clark on Sept. 11, 2001, urging him to go on CNN and blame Saddam Hussein for the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

Clark, you'll remember, told Tim Russert last June that the attempt to link Saddam and 9/11 "came from the White House, it came from people around the White House, it came from all over. I got a call on 9/11. I was on CNN, and I got a call at my home saying, 'You've got to say this is connected. This is state-sponsored terrorism.'"

Clark eventually admitted that he never received a call from the White House. Instead, he talked to "a man from a--of a Middle East think tank in Canada, the man who's the brother of a very close friend of mine in Belgium."



Wesley Clark, BuzzFlash.com, Dave Barry
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Here
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Wes Clark isn't always the best source for supporting your position, apparently his perceptions are moving targets:

In an article in last Thursday's Toronto Star, reporter Tim Harper uncovered the identity of the man who supposedly called Wesley Clark on Sept. 11, 2001, urging him to go on CNN and blame Saddam Hussein for the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon.

Clark, you'll remember, told Tim Russert last June that the attempt to link Saddam and 9/11 "came from the White House, it came from people around the White House, it came from all over. I got a call on 9/11. I was on CNN, and I got a call at my home saying, 'You've got to say this is connected. This is state-sponsored terrorism.'"

Clark eventually admitted that he never received a call from the White House. Instead, he talked to "a man from a--of a Middle East think tank in Canada, the man who's the brother of a very close friend of mine in Belgium."



Wesley Clark, BuzzFlash.com, Dave Barry
Ouch!
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Old 06-29-2008, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Now was that so difficult?
One down, one to go.
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:52 AM
 
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There's millions of hero's. They climb trees and save cats, carry folks out of buildings, heck even stop their cars at night and give lifts to folks who have run out of gas. They're teachers and soldiers, emt's and firemen, police officers, social workers and soldiers.

What does hero status have to do with Foreign Policy Experience and leadership ability?
McCain is a graduate of the National War College, just like Colin Powell. Did Clark mention that?
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:38 AM
 
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Clark is an Obama minion with NO credibility. He will say what he needs to say to worm his way in.
Well of course, someone who says things like "Anything to keep him out of the WH" is naturally comfortable with the integrity-free idea of "saying what he needs to say."

I don't see any Republicans who know McCain assailing General Clark's opinion of the guy. Although I expect Monday morning, back on the 9 to 5, whoever gets paid to will crank up the old ad hominem attack-machine (another cheap, pitiful, loser technique)
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