General Wesley Clark - John McCain "Untested and Untried" (voting, poll)
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He was the ("difficult," "rebellious") son of an admiral, he followed his dad's and granddad's footsteps for a career. With his POW hero reputation and his little second wife's daddy's money he launched a career in politics. In the Senate he's trashed his name and his honor for pitching fits like a spoiled kid when he doesnt get his way, over and over again.
He's a follower of those who whipped him, asking them to help him, or letting them "help" him. Rather than be enough of a man to go find a good strategist on his own - one unaffiliated with the Bush family or Karl Rove - what does he do? He rolls over like a dog for Rove et al. who smeared him so disrespectfully in 2000, and who put Charlie Black in charge of his current campaign. I dont think that's strong or leaderly, in fact I think it shows of apathy at best, craven weakness at worst.
"The truth is that, in national security terms, he's largely untested and untried. He's never been responsible for policy formulation. He's never had leadership in a crisis, or in anything larger than his own element on an aircraft carrier or [in managing] his own congressional staff. It's not clear that this is going to be the strong suit that he thinks it is."
That's Clark talking about McCain who's on the Armed Services Committee, for Pete's sake. And has been for - how many terms, I dont know, his website writers don't even mention it by name. Clark: "[He] has been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee, and he has traveled all over the world, but he hasn't held executive responsibility."
That sounds to me as if we should consider the quality of his service over quantity, number of years.
And why would Clark glibly lie? If he lies of course his opponents would instantly catch an discredit him. So far no word that I've seen contradicting him.
I dont see leadership in McCain. He just seems like a weak little guy, covering up with swagger and bluster and the cloak of someone else's money, and quite the potty mouth according to people who actually know him, like his colleagues in the US Senate. Im sorry he was a POW and I admire that he refused early repatriation - that was definitely heroic, but it was the ONLY heroic thing about him to date. Thirty-five years have passed and he's kept busy. I see an opportunistic, small-minded, uninspired, petty person, a 71-year-old tantrum-throwing pottymouth who in 26 years has never been trusted or respected by his colleagues enough to be selected to chair one congressional committee.
"McCain's weakness is that he's always been for the use of force, force and more force. In my experience, the only time to use force is as a last resort. ... When he talks about throwing Russia out of the G8 and makes ditties about bombing Iran, he betrays a disrespect for the office of the presidency."
"Republicans like to focus on the threat, on fear, on insecurities. It's what motivates their base," he said.
Last edited by delusianne; 06-29-2008 at 06:38 PM..
Reason: enough already
Doesn't that prove her point, that he doesn't matter? Hillary didn't win...
My point is not whether Hillary won but rather Sunshine has flip flopped on her opinion of Wesley Clark. She was a big Hillary supporter and likes to accuse Obama of flip flopping so the test is whether she is guilty of what she says she despises.
"I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification for President" - General Wesley Clark, Retired General, Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO from 1997 to 2000, Valedictorian of his class at West Point.
Ahh...So you'd like us to believe that this is about money and privilege.
Clark said of McCain while speaking from his office in Little Rock, Arkansas. "The truth is that, in national security terms, he's largely untested and untried. He's never been responsible for policy formulation. He's never had leadership in a crisis, or in anything larger than his own element on an aircraft carrier or [in managing] his own congressional staff. It's not clear that this is going to be the strong suit that he thinks it is."
How about this - Show us leadership taken by Senator McCain on a foreign policy issues that demanded skill and bi-partisan effort as well as extensive military knowledge or expertise displayed during the negotiation of said policy.
Or show us how money and privilege did the same, either way we should know he is considerably stronger than Senator Obama in this area since this is the platform he has chosen to adopt.
My point is not whether Hillary won but rather Sunshine has flip flopped on her opinion of Wesley Clark. She was a big Hillary supporter and likes to accuse Obama of flip flopping so the test is whether she is guilty of what she says she despises.
Never liked Hillary and never will. Wouldnt vote for her if she was the nominee either.
Clark is problem, he got demoted for not following instructions and he is out to get someone for it.
If he was so smart and so experienced then why is he just showing up during the election cycles?
I am not a huge fan of McCain but will vote for him over the other tax monger socialist Obama anyday.
Never liked Hillary and never will. Wouldnt vote for her if she was the nominee either.
Clark is problem, he got demoted for not following instructions and he is out to get someone for it.
If he was so smart and so experienced then why is he just showing up during the election cycles?
I am not a huge fan of McCain but will vote for him over the other tax monger socialist Obama anyday.
Clark is problem, he got demoted for not following instructions and he is out to get someone for it.
If he was so smart and so experienced then why is he just showing up during the election cycles?
If Senator McCain is soo experienced why are you having such difficulty providing examples to establish it?
I'm certain you'd love to continue thinking we'll be sidetracked by your efforts to drag Senator Obama in this discussion, but, alas the charges were made by General Wesley Clark. Whether the General is out to get someone or not he appears to have effectively called into question Senator McCain's experience - what say you?
Wesley Clark is a nutcase. For a loonytunes like him to be against McCain is one of the strongest endorsements McCain is likely to receive!
Another point: If Clark means to knock McCain as a way of showing support for Obama, he'd do well to remind himself of the old saying about man who live in glass house. Clark wants to put down McCain by saying McCain has no foreign policy experience? Is he sure he even wants to go there? Um, after all, what vast foreign policy experience has Obama had in his one term as a U.S. senator?
Wesley Clark is a nutcase. For a loonytunes like him to be against McCain is one of the strongest endorsements McCain is likely to receive!
Another point: If Clark means to knock McCain as a way of showing support for Obama, he'd do well to remind himself of the old saying about man who live in glass house. Clark wants to put down McCain by saying McCain has no foreign policy experience? Is he sure he even wants to go there? Um, after all, what vast foreign policy experience has Obama had in his one term as a U.S. senator?
What does this have to do with Senator Obama? General Clark made the statement.
Clark said of McCain while speaking from his office in Little Rock, Arkansas. "The truth is that, in national security terms, he's largely untested and untried. He's never been responsible for policy formulation. He's never had leadership in a crisis, or in anything larger than his own element on an aircraft carrier or [in managing] his own congressional staff. It's not clear that this is going to be the strong suit that he thinks it is."
Does Senator McCain have foreign policy experience that nullifies General Clark's claim?
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