Obama abortion position that seems radical (interview, thoughts, legal, soldiers)
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In his stump speeches Obama puffs his chest out and boasts of his 100% voting record in opposing pre-born human life. He touts his endorsement of NARAL's Pro-Choice, pro abortion members.
When the Supreme Court upheld a ban on partial birth abortion Obama was outraged and said the court was wrong since it took away a woman's right to choose to end her infant's life after it was born. The precident setting ruling (Carhart vs. Gonzales) was applauded and supported by nearly every member of Congress. Obama was the lone US senator who opposed it!
The ban ended the horrible practice during the last trimester that pulls a baby from the womb, feet first, inserts scissors in the head, sucks out the brains and crushes the skull before removing its murdered body.
Obama continually opposes legislation that would require medical treatment and food for children born alive with disabilities after a failed abortion.
The Induced Infant Liability Act was a cynical legal ploy designed to make all AB illegal, which would have been unconstitutional. He saw right through it as many if not most of his colleagues did not.
Here is what Obama said when arguing against Illinois's Born Alive Infants Protection Act during Senate floor debate.
This was legislation clarifying the terms “person,” “human being,” “child,” and “individual” in Illinois statutes included any baby born alive, no matter what gestational age or circumstance of birth:
“… I just want to suggest… that this is probably not going to survive constitutional scrutiny.”
“Number one, whenever we define a pre-viable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we’re really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a – child, a 9-month-old – child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place.”
“I mean, it – it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an anti-abortion statute. For that purpose, I think it would probably be found unconstitutional.”
Roe v Wade upholds the constitution's implied right to privacy.
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The Induced Infant Liability Act was a cynical legal ploy designed to make all AB illegal, which would have been unconstitutional. He saw right through it as many if not most of his colleagues did not.
Here is what Obama said when arguing against Illinois’ Born Alive Infants Protection Act during Senate floor debate. This was legislation clarifying the terms “person,” “human being,” “child,” and “individual” in Illinois statutes included any baby born alive, no matter what gestational age or circumstance of birth:
“… I just want to suggest… that this is probably not going to survive constitutional scrutiny.”
“Number one, whenever we define a pre-viable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we’re really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a – child, a 9-month-old – child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place.”
“I mean, it – it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an anti-abortion statute. For that purpose, I think it would be found unconstitutional.”
Their bolding. Roe v Wade upholds the constitution's implied right to privacy.
The Induced Infant Liability Act was a cynical legal ploy designed to make all AB illegal, which would have been unconstitutional. He saw right through it as many if not most of his colleagues did not.
Here is what Obama said when arguing against Illinois's Born Alive Infants Protection Act during Senate floor debate.
This was legislation clarifying the terms “person,” “human being,” “child,” and “individual” in Illinois statutes included any baby born alive, no matter what gestational age or circumstance of birth:
“… I just want to suggest… that this is probably not going to survive constitutional scrutiny.”
“Number one, whenever we define a pre-viable fetus as a person that is protected by the equal protection clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we’re really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a – child, a 9-month-old – child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place.”
“I mean, it – it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an anti-abortion statute. For that purpose, I think it would probably be found unconstitutional.”
Roe v Wade upholds the constitution's implied right to privacy.
You are confusing the issue on purpose. I agree that's what Obama said when he voted against the ban in the Illinois legislature.
HOWEVER:
When the Supreme Court upheld a ban on partial birth abortion Obama was outraged and said the court was wrong since it took away a woman's right to choose to end her infant's life after it was born. The precident setting ruling (Carhart vs. Gonzales) was applauded and supported by nearly every member of Congress.Obama was the lone US senator who opposed it!
Our family was taught personal responsibility so it really does not have an affect on me till they start the partial birth abortions. Or like Obama like to vote in favor of shelving babies.
You are confusing the issue on purpose. I agree that's what Obama said when he voted against the ban in the Illinois legislature.
HOWEVER:
When the Supreme Court upheld a ban on partial birth abortion Obama was outraged and said the court was wrong since it took away a woman's right to choose to end her infant's life after it was born. The precident setting ruling (Carhart vs. Gonzales) was applauded and supported by nearly every member of Congress.Obama was the lone US senator who opposed it!
Im not confusing the issue, virtually that whole thing is a direct quote.
Im going to waste some bandwidth here and without reading the piece speculate that Obama is right to oppose it - if he's correct in saying the court's ruling because it takes away a woman's right to choose, that is indeed unconstitutional. I'll guess the ruling was a weasel around Roe v. Wade - not a hard guess as the Gonzales is Alberto Gonzales. Plus it's brave and confident of him to vote the law rather than with "the crowd." But I dont know, I havent read it, and I aint no lawyer.
The more I read about Obama's extreme-left abortion position (he's even further to the left of Planned Parenthood and NARAL), the more I realize that I cannot vote for him in good conscience. I also cannot vote for McCain, because he's a warmonger who will have us stuck in Iraq or even Iran for eternity. I can't vote for Obama, and I can't vote for McSame. I'm either going to have to not vote for President at all...or write in Ron Paul, since I'm on the same wavelength as he in being pro-life and and against the Iraq war.
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